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knorbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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I sent email to authorities to inform them about that I'm going again to express opinion in Kazincbarcika on 29-11-2023.
Címzett: -Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -Demeter Zoltán, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Semjén Zsolt
-Dr Kövér László; Országház Hivatala; -Terror Háza Múzeum, Schmidt Mária,
-Kiss Zsolt, Főigazgató, Nemzeti Egészségbiztosítási Alapkezelő (NEAK)
-Dr Müller Cecília, országos tisztifőorvos, Nemzeti Népegészségügyi Központ, (NNK)
-Dr Alakszai Zoltán, BAZ-Megyei Főispán, -Dr Asztalos Ágnes, főosztályvezető, Népegészségügyi Főosztály,
-Dr Hudák Zita, Edelényi Járási Hiv., Dr Király Mária, Népegészségügyi Oszt.
-Dr Motkó Tamás, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Szabó Ilona, -Dr Lencár Márta, -Dr Tímár József, Dr Rácz Zsigmond J.
-Szitka Péter, Polgármester Kazincbarcika,-Szabó Szilvia Foglalkoztatási Oszt., Dr Agonás Lajos Béla Kbarcika Járási Hiv.
-Nagy Gábor; Kazincbarcikai Rendőrkapitány, -Országos Rendőr Főkapitányság (ORFK),
-Városüzemeltetési és Rendészeti Osztály Kazincbarcika,
-Kazincbarcikai Járásbíróság, -Országos Bíróság Hivatal, stb Magyarországi Bíróságok
-Kazincbarcikai Járási Ügyészség, -Központi Nyomozó Főügyészség, -Legfőbb Ügyészség, -stb Magyarországi Ügyészség
-Dr Tuzson Bence Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr. Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár
-Oroszország Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, Sztaniszlavov Evgenij Arnoldovics Nagykövet, -Oroszország Kormánya, -SVR, -FSB

Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hu
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 20220208Otthon.JPG; KimarN20230927Kb.JPG
Tárgy: Kommunista rasszizmus ellen véleménynyilvánítás és Munka/Pénz kérés dátuma

Tisztelt Cím!
Ismételten a véleményemet (egyedül) akarom kinyilvánítani Kazincbarcikán, és munkát/ pénzt kérni. -Ez néhány perc lenne. -Egyedül és békésen akarok menni transzparensekkel és némán, ragasztószalaggal a számon (hogy bizonyítsam hogy némán csinálom ezt). -És videó felvételt és fényképeket akarok csinálni a teljes eseményről.

Ennek dátuma és helyszíne: 2023, november, 29
Háziorvosi rendelő Gépész út 21.; -Háziorvosi rendelő, Május 1 út 2.; -Kazincbarcikai Járási Ügyészség, Fő tér 40,
Kazincbarcikai Járásbíróság Fő tér 41; -Polgármester Hivatal, Fő tér 4.; -Foglalkoztatási osztály, Tóth Árpád út 2.
Háziorvosi rendelő, Mikszáth Kálmán u. 6,; -Kazincbarcikai Rendőrkapitányság, Barátság tér 1-3.

Indoklás; Mert a hatóságok rasszista kommunista bűnei, korrupciói elnyomják az emberi jogaimat és veszélyeztetik az életemet Magyarországon 2015 óta. - De a tények lassan azt mutatják, hogy ezt az üldöztetést azok a (ex)kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik, stb) csinálják, akik most a Nyugatnak és a NATO-nak dolgoznak, és vagy képviselik azokat. -És több alkalommal küldtem e-mailt a Terrorháza Múzeumnak mert bizonyítékot akarok kapni a kommunista történelmi bűncselekményről, mivel a magyar hatóságok tagadják és paranoia jelének hívják ezek ismeretét is. A Múzeum sosem válaszolt idáig.
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Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem.
- Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben. - Külföldi jogi segítség nélkül nem lehet békésen megállítani ezt a rasszista diszkriminatív kommunista bűncselekményt.
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- Név: Kimár Norbert, - Lakcím: Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
- Születési idő, hely, Állampolgárság: 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, november, 22
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul, In English. ***

To: -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -Zoltán Demeter, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zsolt Semjén
-Dr László Kövér; Office of Parliament; -House of Terror Museum, Mária Schmidt,
-Zsolt Kiss, Director General, Tasks of the National Health Insurance Fund of Hungary (NEAK),
-Dr Cecília Müller, National Chief Medical Officer, National Public Health Center (NNK)
-Dr Zoltán Alaszkai Lord Lieutenant BAZ County Govt Office, -Dr Ágnes Asztalos, National Public Health Department,
-Dr Zita Hudák, District Office of Edelény; Dr Mária Király, National Public Health Dept.
-Dr Tamás Motkó, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Ilona Szabó, -Dr Márta Lencár, -Dr József Tímár, Dr Rácz Zsigmond J.
-Péter Szitka, Mayor of Kazincbarcika, -Szilvia Szabó Employment Dept., Dr Lajos Béla Agonás District Office of Kbarcika
-Gábor Nagy police chief of Kazincbarcika, -National (Country) Police Headquarters (ORFK)
-Department of City Management and Law Enforcement Kazincbarcika,
-Kazincbarcika District Court, -National Office for Judiciary, etc Hungarian Courts
-Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, -Central Chief Prosecution Office of Investigation, -Supreme Prosecution Office, etc Hungarian Prosecution
-Dr Bence Tuzson Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health
-Russian Embassy in Hungary, -Stanislavov Evgeniy Arnoldovich Ambassador, -Government of Russia, -SVR, -FSB

Attachment: KimarN_SzIg_ID. 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hu
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 20220208Otthon.JPG; KimarN20230927Kb.JPG
Subject: Date of Expressing opinion against communist racism and Asking Job/Money

Dear Sir, Madam,
I repeatedly want (alone) to express my opinion in Kazincbarcika, and to ask for a job/ money.-This would be a few minutes. -I want to walk alone and peacefully with my banners and mutely, with duct-tape on my mouth (to prove I'm doing it mutely). -And I want to make video recordings and photos about the entire event.

It's date and location: 29, November, 2023,
Family doctor surgery Gépész út 21.; -Family doctor surgery Május 1 út 2.; -Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, Fő tér 40,
Kazincbarcika District Court Fő tér 41; -Mayor Office, Fő tér 4.; -Employment Department, Tóth Árpád út 2.
Family doctor surgery, Mikszáth Kálmán u. 6,; -Kazincbarcika Police Station, Barátság tér 1-3

Reasoning; Because the authorities racist communist crimes, corruption have been oppressing my human rights and endangering my life in Hungary since 2015. - But the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the West and NATO, and or representing those. -And I sent emails many times to House of Terror Museum because I want to get proof about communist historical crimes, because the Hungarian authorities deny and call sign of paranoia the knowledge of these too. The Museum never replied.
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Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor.
- I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution. - It's not possible to peacefully stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help.
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- Name: Mr. Norbert Kimár, - Address: Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
- Birth place, date, Nationality; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
22, November, 2023. Hungary
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár
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On 23-11-2023, I sent this to the MI5 on their contact form.
The embassy didn't answer to me on their twitter and I really want to know why did they do that to me.
The British Embassy in Hungary didn't let me to make "one person expressing opinion" in public area in front of the embassy on 15-11-2023.
The security guard said that "we didn't receive email". But there isn't any law which requires that, when only one person wants to express opinion alone in a public area, because freedom of speech law and "one person" is not gathering. And I sent 2 emails to your embassy too as a help for your security system also, and my first email clearly said that I want to do it alone and mutely.
-Practically your security guard unlawfully ordered the police to stop my freedom of speech rights in public area in front of your embassy, and therefore I had to express my opinion away from your embassy.
But why?
-Did this happen because the embassy's security issues weren't fixed yet, as I too personally complained to you about security issue on 02-Oct-2023?
-Or was it a different reason?
-Or was it a drill, and you checked everything including the surprised police, and how fast the police car can be there? Well the policeman called his boss, and the police car arrived very fast, and it seemed to me that nobody understood why the embassy did this to me.
But the "drill" forgot few things, like my human rights is still violated, and that's a NATO security issue for UK too, as you can see it in my those emails too what the security guy didn't receive for some reason. So the security man "unlawfully" silenced a NATO security issue case front of your embassy in public area.
Well if it was a drill or not then what did it prove? This is not a joke or game for me but a lawful fight for my life.
video link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...
knorbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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On 29-11-2023, I expressed my opinion, protested because of the racist communist crime against my life.
1-Family Dr Tamás Motko / Family Dr Márta Lencár surgery Május 1 út 2.;
2-Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, Fő tér 40,;
3-Kazincbarcika District Court Fő tér 41;
4-Kazincbarcika Mayor Office, Fő tér 4.;
5-Employment Department (Jobcenter), Tóth Árpád út 2.;
6-Dr József Tímár Family doctor surgery, Mikszáth Kálmán u. 6,;
7-Kazincbarcika Police Station, Barátság tér 1-3.
* Authorities still didn't do anything to terminate their racial (communist) crime against my life.
I had duct-tape on my mouth as always since 2022, and the Dr Tamás Motko family doctor surgery is under renovation.
A woman (Gypsy) stopped and looked my banners and then she said she doesn't know what to say, probably she too or her relative had bad experience with doctors.

My camera was acting wrongly (too dark) I had to set it all the time, maybe a wrong setting, or my enemy's AI was messing with it via wifi again. - Many years ago I tried to take a CV photo, but "coincidently" all photos were wrong, it worked like the smile function was hacked to be ugly function. Anyway I put an old camera (it had no wifi) next to this camera just to see what CV photos they can take. And wow the old camera took normal photos, unlike this camera. Great right, in the same time 2 total different face results on 2 different cameras next to each other.

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I heard in news Palestinian women who now got out from Israeli jail said "Only Hamas cared for us," because UN, NGO etc did nothing. And days after that there were news arguments on Internet which said it's not true and it was wrong translation etc.
Anyway I'm white from Cristian family and I've been saying these since many years;
- "I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution."
- Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) with cases like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".'

But just check the critics and corruptions, crimes around UN, and same about other human rights NGO etc, the Internet is globally full with their corruptions.
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And my enemies went more nuts since I sent the 2nd "contact-form" to MI5. Those click-baits and youtube videos which came up as "suggested" with the subliminal messages are just showing how p..ed up they became. And I just wonder why don't they rather show me useful stories of those crime victims who got rescued by West from this persecution?? Unless Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) answer "..we don't have records about cases like yours", represents Ombudsman / UN in West too.
knorbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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On 02-12-2023, I sent this email to -U.S.A. Embassy in Hungary, -David Pressman Ambassador; -FBI, -CIA. I used that email address what the security gave me on 15-November when I protested in front of them,.
This is the subject of my letter; "I need your advice, help"

........ I believe the USA and its FBI/CIA are one of the biggest places where to I can turn for advice, help, and therefore I'd like to ask this;

- Is there any community / ideology, organization or anything else in your country and/or in the Western / NATO world that can stop this "persecution against my life" or not?

I'm sure the US and the FBI/CIA too have limits everywhere, that's why I'm asking this, because I found nothing but neglect, corruption, and propaganda everywhere.

The reasoning is the same..
And I decided to stop using in my future emails this part of my comment (note). Because everybody knows what it means when authorities call the human rights law "stupid" while they try to cover up their racist crime, and it just fueled the arrogance of some of corrupt Western EU countries.
"- It's not possible to peacefully stop this racial discrimination communist crime without foreign legal help."


And this is the email what I sent.
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, december, 02

Címzett: -U.S.A. Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, -David Pressman Nagykövet; -FBI, -CIA,

Tárgy: Az Önök tanácsadásra és segítségre van szükségem
Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 20151115Consul.png
2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf
202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 20220208Otthon.JPG; KimarN20231115BpUS.JPG

Tisztelt Cím!
Az Önök Nagykövetségének biztonsági szolgálata ezt a webmester e-mail címet adta nekem, amikor 2023-11-15-én véleményemet nyilvánítottam az Önök Nagykövetsége előtt, - azzal az indokkal, hogy ez tovább tudja küldeni az e-mailemet a megfelelő osztálynak. Úgy gondolom, hogy az USA és a FBI/CIA-ja az egyik legnagyobb hely, ahova tanácsért, segítségért fordulhatok, ezért ezt szeretném kérdezni;

- Van-e olyan közösség / ideológia, szervezet vagy bármi más az Önök országában és/vagy a nyugati / NATO világban, ami megtudja állítani ezt az "életem elleni üldözést" vagy nincs?

Biztos vagyok benne, hogy az USA-nak és az FBI/CIA-nak is mindenhol vannak határai, ezért kérdezem ezt, mivel mindenhol csak elhanyagolást, korrupciót és propagandát találtam.

Indoklás:
- Gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek vagyok áldozata, 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek, a kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért.
- Nem tudom hogyan mondjam másként, de a tények lassan azt mutatják, hogy ezt az üldöztetést azok a (ex)kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik, stb) csinálják, akik most a Nyugatnak és a NATO-nak dolgoznak (többnyire EU-ban/Európában).
Az EU, NATO nem hajlandóak semmit se tenni ez ellen a bűn ellen. - Magyar Ombudsman (ENSZ) ezt mondta nekem 2015-ben: "Nem azt mondom, hogy Ön az első (áldozat) ilyen üggyel mint az Öné, hanem hogy nekünk nincs ilyen ügyről jegyzőkönyvünk mint az Öné." - Megkérdeztem telefonon a Kazincbarcikai rendőrfőkapitányt 2020-ban; "Mi van, ha valami történik velem (a rasszista üldöztetés alatt)?", és ő ezt válaszolta; "Természetes halál".
- És évek óta ezt mondom; "Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben". Kedves, békés emberek segítettek engem Malajziában, de ezt az EU és/vagy NATO szövetségeseknek, például az USA-nak kellene megtenniük. - Azt szeretném mondani, hogy főleg muszlimok, de mások is segítettek ott, és egy szingapúri metodista kínai hasznos tanácsokat adott nekem. És biztos vagyok benne, hogy a délkelet-ázsiai keresztények bárki mással együtt örülnének, ha ez az üldözés megszűnne a keresztény többségű világban.
-És a hírekben hallottam, hogy például az FBI is kiképzést, tanácsokat add a magyar rendőrségnek.

Ez történt:
1; - Ismeretlen személyek zaklattak, hergeltek telefonon, Interneten, stb, éveken keresztül, erősebben, és erősebben (rondább dolgok is történtek) és a rendőrség elutasított segíteni nekem.
2; - Meglátogattam a háziorvost hogy megújítsam a vezetői engedélyem 2015 szeptember 15-én. És mondtam neki hogy mi történik velem. A háziorvos pszichiátriai végzettség nélkül mondta hogy paranoiám van. Mondtam neki hogy csak független pszichiátriai vizsgálatot fogadok el ahol volt és jelen kommunisták, stb hozzátartozók nem lehetnek jelen, - azzal indokkal hogy a kommunista bűnök áldozatainak családjába születtem, és az apám megpróbálta kikapni a kommunista ügynökök neveit, de nem adták ki. - Azóta rájöttem hogy én is az áldozatuk vagyok, mert 1972-ben születtem a kommunizmus alatt, és például a kommunisták meg sem engedték a szüleimnek hogy megkereszteltessenek engem.
3; - Háziorvosok és más hatóságok is elutasították a jogaimat azzal az indokkal hogy: "Már régen volt a kommunizmusban azaz elévültek", "Ez is paranoia", "Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". És nevettek a jogaimon.
- És a Háziorvosok meghamisították az egészségügyi dokumentumaimat és biztosításomat hamis orvosi jelentésekkel, és a hatóságok megtagadják megállítani ezt a bűnt.
4; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. És emiatt például; -Nincs jövedelmem mert nem tudok dolgozni sehol se (még katonaként se), mivel így törvényes munkavédelem nem lehetséges. -Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. -Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt (bűncselekmény miatt) nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.
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Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert


*** Angolul / In English ***


Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
02, December, 2023. Hungary,

To: -U.S.A. Embassy in Hungary, -David Pressman Ambassador; -FBI, -CIA,

Subject; I need your advice and help
Attachment: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 20151115Consul.png
2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hudak_BAZ-12.pdf2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf
202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 20220208Otthon.JPG; KimarN20231115BpUS.JPG

Dear Sir, Madam,
Your Embassy's security gave me this webmaster email address when I expressed my opinion in front of your Embassy on 15-11-2023, - for this reason it can forward my emails to the correct department. I believe the USA and its FBI/CIA are one of the biggest places where to I can turn for advice, help, and therefore I'd like to ask this;

- Is there any community / ideology, organization or anything else in your country and/or in the Western / NATO world that can stop this "persecution against my life" or not?

I'm sure the US and the FBI/CIA too have limits everywhere, that's why I'm asking this, because I found nothing but neglect, corruption, and propaganda everywhere.

Reasoning:
- I'm a victim of an attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and the ex-KGB, the communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And the FIDESZ-KDNP govt too is responsible for that.
- I don't know how else to say it, but the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the West and NATO (mostly in EU/Europe).
The EU, NATO refuse to do anything against this crime. - Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) with cases like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours". - I asked the Police chief of Kazincbarcika on the phone in 2020; "What if something happens to me (under the racist persecution)?", and he answered this; "Natural death".
- And I've been saying this for years; "I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution". Nice, peaceful people helped me in Malaysia, but this should be done by EU and/or NATO allies for example the USA. - I'd like to say mostly Muslims but others too helped me there, and a Singaporean Methodist Chinese gave me useful advice. And I'm sure the Southeast Asian Christians with anybody else would be happy, if this persecution would be stopped in Christian majority world.
- And I heard in the news that for example the FBI too has been training, giving advice to Hungarian police.

This happened:
1; - Unknown people harassed, bullied me stronger and stronger on phone, Internet, etc, for years (uglier things too happened) and police refused to help me.
2; - I visited the family doctor to renew my driving licence on 15 September 2015. And I told her what have been happening to me. The family doctor without psychiatric qualification said that I'm paranoid. I told her I only accept independent psychiatric examination where former and present communists, etc relatives cannot be present, - for reason I was born in a family of victims of communist crimes, and my father tried to get out the communist agents' names, but they didn't give out. - Ever since I realized I'm too victim of them, because I was born in 1972 in communism, and for example communists didn't even let my parents christen me.
3; - Family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason: "It was long ago in communism therefore those expired", "This is paranoia too", "Nobody cares that "stupid" law". And they laughed on my rights.
- And the family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime.
4; - Therefore I can't do anything which demands lawful health protection. And therefore for example; -I've no income because I can't work anywhere (not even as a soldier), because lawful labor protection is not possible in this way. -My travel rights are limited. -Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this (crime).
*
Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár
** 2 **


I sent email to the Pope 7th time, it was the same usual email to ask him to talk to the Hungarian FIDESZ-KDNP gov to stop their racist communist crime against my life. Persecution officially started under this gov in 2015. And KDNP Christian Democratic People's Party control led the health care in that time.
This time also I sent it to their postmaster @ vatican.va, but again the usual robot reply came to say
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
There was a time when they received my email but anyway I twitted my email onto the Pope's X account again.
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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** 1 ** So far nobody replied to my email what I sent to USA Embassy / FBI.
**
Anyway on 11-12-2023, I sent the same email again to McDonald's, Hungarian Defense Ministry, NATO, NCIA (NATO Intelligence), USA Embassy, FBI, PM Viktor Orban, FIDESZ-KDNP etc.
Subject: Job search, Asking for advice.

- This is the interesting part, even the last 2 sentences of it but it's practicvally the same with the earlier email;
Dear Sir, Madam,
Can the Defence of Hungary, or McDonald's lawfully employ me? I accept any kind of job position.
The problem is that the Hungarian authorities' racist (communist) crimes have been oppressing my human rights since 2015.
I'm asking the help, advice of the USA, FBI too because those who helped me in Malaysia said to me "Norbert, why don't you go (with this) to the USA, EU?".
-Or please tell me which of the USA companies, etc in Hungary can employ me, or tell me how and where should I work in life?
-EU, NATO refuse to do anything against this crime.
-Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said to me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) with cases like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".
-I asked the Police chief of Kazincbarcika on the phone in 2020; "What if something happens to me (under this racist persecution)?", and he answered this; "Natural death".
-And I heard in the news that for example the FBI too has been training, giving advice to Hungarian police.

Would be interesting to know who else have been training Hungarian police and where else?
I'm still thinking the same "It's great right? News are saying FBI is training and giving advices to the Hungarian police, while these police are abusing the rights of victims of communist agents crimes, they call the human rights law "stupid". And when I asked the Police chief of Kazincbarcika on the phone in 2020; "What if something happens to me (under this racist persecution)?", and he answered this; "Natural death". And so on many racial discrimination things what police, doctors etc said me since 2015."


And this is the email;
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, december, 11

Címzett: -Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Demeter Zoltán,
-Dr Tuzson Bence Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár
-Szalay-Bobrovniczky Kristóf Honvédelmi Miniszter, -Szabó Szilvia Foglalkoztatási Oszt.
-Jens Stoltenberg NATO Főtitkár, -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Hírszerző ügynökségei),
-U.S.A. Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, -David Pressman Nagykövet, -FBI,
-McDonakd's, -Magyar Honvédség,

Tárgy: Munkakeresés, Tanács kérése
Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; CV2023KimarN.pdf; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 2015115Consul.png; 2022_2023JobsBook.pdf; ToEU202306KimarN.pdf

Tisztelt Cím!
Tudna a Magyar Honvédség, vagy a McDonald’s' törvényesen foglalkoztatni? Bármilyen állást elfogadok.
A probléma az hogy a magyar hatóságok rasszista (kommunista) bűnei elnyomják az emberi jogaimat 2015 óta.
Az USA, FBI segítségét, tanácsát is kérem, mert akik segítettek Malajziában, azt mondták nekem, hogy "Norbert miért nem mész (ezzel) az USA-ba, EU-ba?".
-Vagy kérem, mondják meg, hogy Magyarországon melyik Amerikai cég stb tud foglalkoztatni engem, vagy mondják meg, hogyan és hol dolgozzak az életben?
-EU, NATO nem hajlandóak semmit tenni ez ellen a bűn ellen.
-Magyar Ombudsman (ENSZ) ezt mondta nekem 2015-ben: "Nem azt mondom, hogy Ön az első (áldozat) ilyen üggyel mint az Öné, hanem hogy nekünk nincs ilyen ügyről jegyzőkönyvünk mint az Öné."
-Megkérdeztem telefonon a Kazincbarcikai rendőrfőkapitányt 2020-ban; "Mi van, ha valami történik velem (a rasszista üldöztetés alatt)?", és Ő ezt válaszolta; "Természetes halált".
-És a hírekben hallottam, hogy például az FBI is kiképzést, tanácsokat add a magyar rendőrségnek.

Indoklás:
- Gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek vagyok áldozata, 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek, a kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért.

Ez történt:
1; - Ismeretlen személyek zaklattak, hergeltek telefonon, Interneten, stb, éveken keresztül, erősebben, és erősebben (rondább dolgok is történtek) és a rendőrség elutasított segíteni nekem.
2; - Meglátogattam a háziorvost hogy megújítsam a vezetői engedélyem 2015 szeptember 15-én. És mondtam neki hogy mi történik velem. A háziorvos pszichiátriai végzettség nélkül mondta hogy paranoiám van. Mondtam neki hogy csak független pszichiátriai vizsgálatot fogadok el ahol volt és jelen kommunisták, stb hozzátartozók nem lehetnek jelen, - azzal indokkal hogy a kommunista bűnök áldozatainak családjába születtem, és az apám megpróbálta kikapni a kommunista ügynökök neveit, de nem adták ki. - Azóta rájöttem hogy én is az áldozatuk vagyok, mert 1972-ben születtem a kommunizmus alatt, és például a kommunisták meg sem engedték a szüleimnek hogy megkereszteltessenek engem.
3; - Háziorvosok és más hatóságok is elutasították a jogaimat azzal az indokkal hogy: "-Már régen volt a kommunizmusban azaz elévültek", "-Ez is paranoia", "-Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". És nevettek a jogaimon.
- És a Háziorvosok meghamisították az egészségügyi dokumentumaimat és biztosításomat hamis orvosi jelentésekkel, és a hatóságok megtagadják megállítani ezt a bűnt.
4; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. Például; törvényes munkavédelem nem lehetséges. Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.
*
Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul / In English ***

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
11, December, 2023. Hungary,

To: -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zoltán Demeter,
-Dr Bence Tuzson Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health,
-Kristóf Szalay-Bobrovniczky Minister of Hungarian Defence, -Szilvia Szabó Employment Dept.
-Jens Stoltenberg Secretary General of NATO; -NATO NCI Agency, (NATO Intelligence),
-U.S.A. Embassy in Hungary, -David Pressman Ambassador, -FBI,
-McDonakd's, -Defence of Hungary,

Subject: Job search, Asking for advice
Attachment: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; CV2023KimarN.pdf; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 2015115Consul.png; 2022_2023JobsBook.pdf; ToEU202306KimarN.pdf

Dear Sir, Madam,
Can the Defence of Hungary, or McDonald's lawfully employ me? I accept any kind of job position.
The problem is that the Hungarian authorities' racist (communist) crimes have been oppressing my human rights since 2015.
I'm asking the help, advice of the USA, FBI too because those who helped me in Malaysia said to me "Norbert, why don't you go (with this) to the USA, EU?".
-Or please tell me which of the USA companies, etc in Hungary can employ me, or tell me how and where should I work in life?
-EU, NATO refuse to do anything against this crime.
-Hungarian Ombudsman (UN) said to me in 2015 that: "I'm not saying you're the first (victim) with cases like yours, but we don't have records about cases like yours".
-I asked the Police chief of Kazincbarcika on the phone in 2020; "What if something happens to me (under this racist persecution)?", and he answered this; "Natural death".
-And I heard in the news that for example the FBI too has been training, giving advice to Hungarian police.

Reasoning:
- I'm a victim of an attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and ex-KGB, the communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And the FIDESZ-KDNP govt too is responsible for that.

This happened:
1; - Unknown people harassed, bullied me stronger and stronger on phone, Internet, etc, for years (uglier things too happened) and police refused to help me.
2; - I visited the family doctor to renew my driving licence on 15 September 2015. And I told her what have been happening to me. The family doctor without psychiatric qualification said that I'm paranoid. I told her I only accept independent psychiatric examination where former and present communists, etc relatives cannot be present, - for reason I was born in a family of victims of communist crimes, and my father tried to get out the communist agents' names, but they didn't give out. - Ever since I realized I'm too victim of them, because I was born in 1972 in communism, and for example communists didn't even let my parents christen me.
3; - Family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason: "-It was long ago in communism therefore those expired", "- This is paranoia too", "-Nobody cares that "stupid" law". And they laughed on my rights.
- And the family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime.
4; - Therefore I cannot do anything which demands legal health protection. For example; the lawful industrial safety is not possible. My travel rights are limited. Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this.
*
Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and there doesn't exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár

** 2 ** On 12-12-2023, I sent email job seeking to - Lidl Magyarország (Hungary), -German Embassy in Hungary (I sent this email onto their Facebook message), -Caritas Hungarica / Katolikus Karitász, - and to the Hungarian government/politicians and authorities.

This my question and the reasoning part;
Dear Sir, Madam,
Could the Lidl Magyarország lawfully employ me? I accept any kind of job position.
The problem is that the Hungarian authorities' racist (communist) crimes have been oppressing my human rights since 2015. Family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime. Therefore, lawful industrial safety is not possible.

Reasoning:
- I'm a victim of an attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and ex-KGB, the communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And the FIDESZ-KDNP govt too is responsible for that. - And the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the West and NATO (mostly in EU/Europe).


And this is the email;
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, december, 12

Címzett: - Lidl Magyarország,
-Német Nagykövetség Magyarországon (facebook üzenetben fogom elküldeni ezt az emailt),
-Caritas Hungarica / Katolikus Karitász,
-Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Demeter Zoltán,
-Dr Tuzson Bence Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr. Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár
-Szabó Szilvia Foglalkoztatási Oszt.

Tárgy: Munkakeresés, és véleménykérés
Csatolás: CV2023KimarN.pdf; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20151115Consul.png; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-

Tisztelt Cím!
Tudna a Lidl Magyarország, törvényesen alkalmazni? Bármilyen állást elfogadok.
A probléma az hogy a magyar hatóságok rasszista (kommunista) bűnei elnyomják az emberi jogaimat 2015 óta. Háziorvosok meghamisították az egészségügyi dokumentumaimat és biztosításomat hamis orvosi jelentésekkel, és a hatóságok megtagadják megállítani ezt a bűnt. Ezért a törvényes munkavédelem nem lehetséges.

Indoklás:
- Gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek vagyok áldozata, 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek, a kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért. - És a tények lassan azt mutatják, hogy ezt az üldöztetést azok a (ex)kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik, stb) csinálják, akik most a Nyugatnak és a NATO-nak dolgoznak (többnyire EU-ban/Európában).

Ez történt:
1; - Ismeretlen személyek zaklattak, hergeltek telefonon, Interneten, stb, éveken keresztül, erősebben, és erősebben (rondább dolgok is történtek) és a rendőrség elutasított segíteni nekem.
2; - Meglátogattam a háziorvost hogy megújítsam a vezetői engedélyem 2015 szeptember 15-én. És mondtam neki hogy mi történik velem. A háziorvos pszichiátriai végzettség nélkül mondta hogy paranoiám van. Mondtam neki hogy csak független pszichiátriai vizsgálatot fogadok el ahol volt és jelen kommunisták, stb hozzátartozók nem lehetnek jelen, - azzal indokkal hogy a kommunista bűnök áldozatainak családjába születtem, és az apám megpróbálta kikapni a kommunista ügynökök neveit, de nem adták ki. - Azóta rájöttem hogy én is az áldozatuk vagyok, mert 1972-ben születtem a kommunizmus alatt, és például a kommunisták meg sem engedték a szüleimnek hogy megkereszteltessenek engem.
3; - Háziorvosok és más hatóságok is elutasították a jogaimat azzal az indokkal hogy: "-Már régen volt a kommunizmusban azaz elévültek", "-Ez is paranoia", "-Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". És nevettek a jogaimon.
- És a Háziorvosok meghamisították az egészségügyi dokumentumaimat és biztosításomat hamis orvosi jelentésekkel, és a hatóságok megtagadják megállítani ezt a bűnt.
4; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. Például; törvényes munkavédelem nem lehetséges. Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.
*
Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul / In English ***

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
12, December, 2023. Hungary,

To: - Lidl Magyarország,
-German Embassy in Hungary (I'm going to send this email onto Facebook message),
-Caritas Hungarica / Katolikus Karitász,
-Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zoltán Demeter,
-Dr Bence Tuzson Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health
-Szilvia Szabó Employment Dept.

Subject: Looking for job, and asking opinion
Attachment: CV2023KimarN.pdf; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20151115Consul.png; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-

Dear Sir, Madam,
Could the Lidl Magyarország lawfully employ me? I accept any kind of job position.
The problem is that the Hungarian authorities' racist (communist) crimes have been oppressing my human rights since 2015. Family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime. Therefore, lawful industrial safety is not possible.

Reasoning:
- I'm a victim of an attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education), it started in 2015 and ex-KGB, the communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And the FIDESZ-KDNP govt too is responsible for that. - And the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the West and NATO (mostly in EU/Europe).

This happened:
1; - Unknown people harassed, bullied me stronger and stronger on phone, Internet, etc, for years (uglier things too happened) and police refused to help me.
2; - I visited the family doctor to renew my driving licence on 15 September 2015. And I told her what have been happening to me. The family doctor without psychiatric qualification said that I'm paranoid. I told her I only accept independent psychiatric examination where former and present communists, etc relatives cannot be present, - for reason I was born in a family of victims of communist crimes, and my father tried to get out the communist agents' names, but they didn't give out. - Ever since I realized I'm too victim of them, because I was born in 1972 in communism, and for example communists didn't even let my parents christen me.
3; - Family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason: "-It was long ago in communism therefore those expired", "- This is paranoia too", "-Nobody cares that "stupid" law". And they laughed on my rights.
- And the family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime.
4; - Therefore I cannot do anything which demands legal health protection. For example; the lawful industrial safety is not possible. My travel rights are limited. Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this.
*
Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and there doesn't exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár
** 3 ** And I will try to contact Reuters news, because I received the threatening message under their video news in Yahoo comments in 2014, and that became real, and then an official part of the persecution (misleading police report).
- Well I can't foretell what will be their response, but sure the media is a main part of moral control.

** 4 ** lol, an Internet user (or troll/bot) tried to suggest me "lawyer" on X (Twitter), when I brought up this persecution in an argument. Well I rather didn't reply any lawyer story though I have for example;
-1, A man once tried to convince me to get "lawyer" when I protested front of FIDESZ headquarters, and he also said me I should stop protesting because it's a worthless etc thing.
-2, And months later when police took me from my protest front of prosecution in my city then even the lawyer ignored that the court has been prosecuting my protest while my human rights have been oppressed and ignored.
And then I wrote into the money transfer notes that "my human rights is still oppressed" because I was charged to pay money to the lawyer for her "service", and I was also charged to pay money to the court also because of "riot protest". And then I sent those transfer notes to the corrupt Supreme court, prosecution etc and a reply came with saying "everything was done correctly".
-3, And not to mention I personally experienced how the police make the investigations, reports, just to make sure "nobody cares that "stupid" law" is the lord, and it's impossible to believe that a lawyer can stop this crime against this racist political mafia.
- And I think private human rights lawyers and human rights org are working differently but in the same way.
ctually usually they are the "cleaners" of human rights crimes around politicians and authorities etc in Hungary.
No wonder why they call the law "stupid" and there is no record about this kind of crimes.
knorbert
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

** 1 **
16-12-2023
I fixed my big banner which was addressed to NATO/EU secret service and I put it on my fence in May-2022. So now I added this content to it;
Or at West, NATO's request
are those ex-communist agents and their families, etc doing this
on left and right side which now working for the West, NATO?

Vagy Nyugat, NATO kérésére
azok az ex-kommunista ügynökök és családjaik stb csinálják ezt
bal és jobb oldalt akik most a Nyugatnak, NATO-nak dolgoznak?
Photo should be here;
https://twitter.com/NorbertKimar/status ... 46/photo/2
https ://twitter .com/NorbertKimar/status/1736107667376976146/photo/2

Of course I had to take about 40 photos just to get 2 useful photos, all because my camera worked wrongly again. So many coincidences, and I can understand that anything can breakdown and sh_t happens, but c'mon it has wifi on it and that's the easiest access and any AI can be set to be trouble maker via wifi.


** 2 **
On 19-12-2023 I sent this email to Reuters / Thomson Reuters and Yahoo.
Subject: What is your moral opinion? / Mi az Önök erkölcsi véleménye?


This is the email;
Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
19, December, 2023. Hungary,

To: - Thomson Reuters, - Reuters,
- Peter Thal Larsen, Global Editor of Breakingviews,
- Yahoo News,

Subject: What is your moral opinion? / Mi az Önök erkölcsi véleménye?
Attachment: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20151115Consul.png; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf
202305TBTaxAid.PDF; YahooReutThreat1.png, YahooReutThreat2.png

Dear Sir, Madam,
I'd like to ask your moral opinion about the following human rights crime, because a part of it started under one of your news. Title; Ukrainians topple Lenin statue in Kharkiv, Reuters Videos.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/ukrain ... tml?ref=gs
I received this message under Reuters news in Yahoo comments on 09/30/2014; „We know where you live. We are watching you. We do not forgive. We do not forget. EXPECT US.”. And Yahoo showed it to me as a threatening message (I attached a print-screen to this email as YahooReutThreat1.png, YahooReutThreat2.png).
- And soon the message became real, they did those ugly things what I didn't even think people would do. And slowly I became a victim of an attempt to violate the freedom of thought (re-education). Officially it started in 2015 and the ex-KGB, the communist agent ideology has been benefiting from it. And the FIDESZ-KDNP govt too is responsible for that. - But the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the West and NATO (mostly in EU/Europe).

That's what I feel in this persecution;
It's like Russia (FSB / SVR) has enemies in Western / EU / NATO world, and these enemies are controlling this persecution as a false-flag weapon to force/blackmail me to be a cannon fodder activist against Russia. (And the FIDESZ-KDNP govt looked at me also as a free campaign as long as my protests sounded only against the ex-communist left wing.)
- You fight as an activist against the ex-KGB / ex-communist agents because of their former human rights crimes, based on your missing human rights against their racist prejudice / bias. -- Or you go to our corrupt / racist ex-communist psychiatric hospitals and lose even more of your human rights there like a mental ill patient. -- Because we corruptly state that; -- our harassment etc crimes against you is just your imagination and never happened, -- and we investigated ourselves and we didn't find any error / problem with our false medical reports in your health documents / insurance.

This happened:
1; - Unknown people harassed, bullied me stronger and stronger on phone, Internet, etc, for years (uglier things too happened after the threatening message) and police refused to help me.
2; - I visited the family doctor to renew my driving licence on 15 September 2015. And I told her what have been happening to me. The family doctor without psychiatric qualification said that I'm paranoid. I told her I only accept independent psychiatric examination where former and present communists, etc relatives cannot be present, - for reason I was born in a family of victims of communist crimes, and my father tried to get out the communist agents' names, but they didn't give out. - Ever since I realized I'm too victim of them, because I was born in 1972 in communism, and for example communists didn't even let my parents christen me.
3; - Family doctors and other authorities too rejected my rights for reason: "It was long ago in communism therefore those expired", "This is paranoia too", "Nobody cares that "stupid" law". And they laughed on my rights.
- And the family doctors falsified my health documents and insurance with false medical reports, and the authorities refuse to stop this crime.
4; - Therefore I can't do anything which demands lawful health protection. And therefore for example; -I've no income because I can't work anywhere (not even as a soldier), because lawful labor protection is not possible in this way. -My travel rights are limited. -Lawyers of private health-insurance companies said that they cannot make contracts with me because of this (crime).
** **
- I've been expressing my opinion (protest) since 2020, and the Russian Embassy voluntarily talked with me even in the first moment too just to prove their innocence in this crime. But EU / NATO / Western world prefer to remain silent and/or corruptly / bureaucratically refuse me, same as the Hungarian authorities do it also. - And on 15-11-2023 I went to the Russian Embassy to talk with them, and I told them this (google translator); "They want us (me and Russia / embassy) to throw mud at each other", in Hungarian; "Azt akarják hogy (én és Oroszország / nagykövetség) dobjunk sarat egymásra" and their answer was "I know (Tudom)".
*

Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár


*** In Hungarian / Magyarul ***

Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2023, december, 19

Címzett: - Thomson Reuters, - Reuters,
- Peter Thal Larsen, Global Editor of Breakingviews,
- Yahoo News,

Tárgy: Mi az Önök erkölcsi véleménye? / What is your moral opinion?
Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20151115Consul.png; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf
202305TBTaxAid.PDF; YahooReutThreat1.png, YahooReutThreat2.png

Tisztelt Cím!
Szeretném megkérdezni az Önök erkölcsi véleményét a következő emberi jogi bűncselekményről, mert egy része az Önök egyik híre alatt kezdődött. Cím; Az ukránok ledöntötték a Lenin-szobrot Harkivban, (Ukrainians topple Lenin statue in Kharkiv,) Reuters Videók.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/video/ukrain ... tml?ref=gs
Ezt az üzenetet a Reuters hír alatt kaptam a Yahoo megjegyzéseiben 2014.09.30-án; „We know where you live. We are watching you. We do not forgive. We do not forget. EXPECT US.”. Magyar jelentése: „Tudjuk hol laksz. Figyelünk téged. Nem bocsátunk meg. Nem felejtünk. SZÁMÍTSRÁNK.”. A Yahoo pedig fenyegető üzenetként mutatta meg nekem (egy képernyőképet csatoltam ehhez az e-mailhez mint YahooReutThreat1.png, YahooReutThreat2.png).).
- És hamarosan valósággá vált az üzenet, olyan ronda dolgokat csináltak, amire nem is gondoltam, hogy az emberek megteszik. - És lassan gondolatszabadság megsértési (átnevelés) kísérletnek áldozata lettem. Hivatalosan 2015-ben kezdődött és az ex-KGB-nek, a kommunista ügynök ideológiának van haszna ebből. És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is felelős ezért. - De a tények lassan azt mutatják, hogy ezt az üldöztetést azok a (ex)kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik, stb) csinálják, akik most a Nyugatnak és a NATO-nak dolgoznak (többnyire EU-ban/Európában).

Ezt érzem ebben az üldözésben;
Mintha Oroszországnak (FSB / SVR-nak) ellenségei lennének a nyugati / EU / NATO világban, és ezek az ellenségek ezt az üldözést mint egy hamis-zászlós fegyvert irányítják, hogy rákényszerítsenek/zsaroljanak engem, hogy ágyútöltelék aktivista legyek Oroszország ellen. (És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is ingyen kampánynak tekintett engem mindaddig, amíg tiltakozásaim csak az exkommunista baloldal ellen szóltak.)
- Aktivistaként harcolsz az ex-KGB / ex-kommunista ügynökök ellen a korábbi emberi jogi bűncselekményeik miatt, a hiányzó emberi jogaid alapján a rasszista előítéleteik / elfogultságaik ellen. -- Vagy bemész a korrupt/rasszista ex-kommunista pszichiátriai kórházainkba és ott még többet veszítesz az emberi jogaidból, mint egy elmebeteg. -- Mivel mi korruptan azt állítjuk; -- az ellened elkövetett zaklatásaink és bűncselekményeink csak a képzeleted, és soha nem történtek meg, -- és mi kivizsgáltuk önmagunkat, és nem találtunk semmi hibát / problémát a hamis orvosi jelentéseinkkel kapcsolatban az egészségügyi okmányaidban / biztosításodban.

Ez történt:
1; - Ismeretlen személyek zaklattak, hergeltek telefonon, Interneten, stb, éveken keresztül, erősebben, és erősebben (rondább dolgok is történtek a fenyegető üzenet után), és a rendőrség elutasított segíteni nekem.
2; - Meglátogattam a háziorvost hogy megújítsam a vezetői engedélyem 2015 szeptember 15-én. És mondtam neki hogy mi történik velem. A háziorvos pszichiátriai végzettség nélkül mondta hogy paranoiám van. Mondtam neki hogy csak független pszichiátriai vizsgálatot fogadok el ahol volt és jelen kommunisták, stb hozzátartozók nem lehetnek jelen, - azzal indokkal hogy a kommunista bűnök áldozatainak családjába születtem, és az apám megpróbálta kikapni a kommunista ügynökök neveit, de nem adták ki. - Azóta rájöttem hogy én is az áldozatuk vagyok, mert 1972-ben születtem a kommunizmus alatt, és például a kommunisták meg sem engedték a szüleimnek hogy megkereszteltessenek engem.
3; - Háziorvosok és más hatóságok is elutasították a jogaimat azzal az indokkal hogy: "Már régen volt a kommunizmusban azaz elévültek", "Ez is paranoia", "Senkit sem érdekel az a "hülye" törvény". És nevettek a jogaimon.
- És a Háziorvosok meghamisították az egészségügyi dokumentumaimat és biztosításomat hamis orvosi jelentésekkel, és a hatóságok megtagadják megállítani ezt a bűnt.
4; - Ezért nem tudok semmit se csinálni ami törvényes egészségvédelmet követel. És emiatt például; -Nincs jövedelmem mert nem tudok dolgozni sehol se (még katonaként se), mivel így törvényes munkavédelem nem lehetséges. -Az utazási jogaim korlátozottak. -Magán egészségbiztosítók ügyvédei azt mondták hogy emiatt (bűncselekmény miatt) nem tudnak szerződést kötni velem.

** **
- 2020 óta véleményt nyilvánítok (tüntettek), és az Orosz Nagykövetség önkéntesen beszélt velem már az első pillanatban is csak azért, hogy bizonyítsák ártatlanságukat ebben a bűnben. De az EU / NATO / nyugati világ inkább hallgat és/vagy korruptan / bürokratikusan visszautasít, ahogy a magyar hatóságok is teszik. - És 2023-11-15-én elmentem az Orosz Nagykövetségre, hogy beszéljek velük, és ezt mondtam nekik; "Azt akarják hogy (én és Oroszország / nagykövetség) dobjunk sarat egymásra" és a válaszuk ez volt "Tudom".
*

Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert
The title; Ukrainians topple Lenin statue in Kharkiv, Reuters Videos. of news
The link of Yahoo news is here again in case it doesn't work in the quote, and sadly Yahoo usually delete the comments do now there isn't any comment there but I've a link to a print screen;

https :/ /www . yahoo. com/news/video/ukrainians-topple-lenin-statue-kharkiv-010215691.html?ref=gs

https ://www .facebook .com/photo/?fbid=1753193381580455&set=ms.c.eJwzNDc1NrQ0NrYwNLUwMDE11TMEC5gYGptYGhqbGxoDAHIEBrE~-.bps.a.1752145618351898
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=17 ... 5618351898

** 3 **

I found interesting story about Reuters on Wikipedia, but Wikipedia is unreliable just as the entire Internet.
Anyway it says UK had Information Research Department (IRD) and it was a secret and the biggest and longest anti-communist agency in UK, and Reuters too got money from IRD. But UK closed IRD in the 1970s but sure propaganda etc didn't die, so new offices are there and ordering black, etc propaganda, etc jobs.
As they say "if you can't beat them then join them"..
And fact is my phone was hacked in UK when I lived there, and some of my east EU work mates had no problem to wear commie medals and to stalk on other east EU work mates including on me. Sure informations were collected about these stalkings and I guess they started to use those infomations. And for example UK is now openly recruiting Russian secret service agents.

It really looks like EU / NATO secret services have an axis and those are behind this crime / false flag and regardless if IRD was real or not.
And that's why nobody wanted to help me in EU / NATO countries while they were about to trick me to visit them but just to waist my time and money on them.
- Now can you imagine what would happen if I would go to USA to ask asylum? No wonder why there were so many subliminal message invitations but no facts. I only found a rejected USA asylum case and it was about some ex-communist Romanian agents politically persecuted a man, it's in the Well Founded Fear document report film from 1990s. And also many people said me from first moment that I should try USA, but those suggestions were based rumors etc.

** 4 **

I'm thinking many times about Malaysia and I still wanna go back again (sure my enemies still try to divide me with them via subliminal etc virtual tricks since from first moment). And well Malaysia convicted Bush and Blair for violation of peace in Iraq, and that doesn't sound like a decision of a puppet / colony of West.

- But to be honest I'm only disappointed with spending my time and money on visiting Turkiye in this year. Well I naively thought and hoped that I can find help / future there. And now even Internet is saying that Turkiye has been training Israeli pilots in Turkiye, Konya, and Israelis have been training Turkish pilots in Israel, and also Turkish are supplying Israel with oil (from Azerbaijan and Turkestan countries etc and these are ex-USSR countries so same Western ex-KGB situation). Honestly the Turkish-Israeli relationship isn't in my case and that's their own business, but fact is these things sound like what any typical NATO country would do and that sounds bad. And not to forget that the Turkish govt is now having a deep friendship with Hungarian govt (Western ex-KGB govt). And my enemies are in that part of ex-KGB which are now working for West / NATO.
- I don't know for example when Turkish-Israeli relationship started that deep and I don't care, but in the last few years I heard few times bad / negative critics about Turkish system, and those didn't really relate to Israel. But it really looks like Turkish system changed after when I visited it in 2014 and in 2015. I guess the bad economic and 2016 coup attempt, etc have many things to do with that change. In other words I was wrong and the misleading informations on news and subliminal tricks etc worked on me.
So easy to manipulate people on Internet if there is no other physical source, - just need to isolate the target and supply with fake / false news what any AI can generate.

Well this Israel-Gaza war burned / washed down a lot of disinformations which were based on fake news etc everywhere, before that they injected many disinformations into the public everywhere in the last many years. And sure the fresh news also are manipulated but they're crossing each other.

** 5 **

I found this USA asylum decision statistic; https://trac.syr.edu/phptools/immigration/asylum/
https :// trac.syr.edu/phptools/immigration/asylum/

And on my screen it says/shows that;
Since 2002 the Hungarian nationalities / Hungarian language got "114 asylum decisions" and "93 of these were denied", which means "more than 80% were denied".
Well 114 isn't enough to say 80% of Hungarians were cheating, because an ex-communist country with population of 10 million can produce that 114 persecution number easily in a 21 years of USA statistic.
- And Hungarian gypsies are getting asylum in Canada, USA and they too have real reasons, and actually that's what people only hear in Hungary everywhere but nothing about native Hungarians. No wonder why Ombudsman (UN) arrogantly said me in 2015 that I'm not the first victim of this crime but they have no records about cases like mine.

- These things are saying a lot who have been running "Go to USA" etc subliminal messages, and why there wasn't any facts just "Go to USA". And it also says who had to invent the rumors of "Go to USA" suggestions what people said me some naively but some said it like a cheater. Well the origin of the rumors / suggestions and the subliminal messages etc have to be the Western and NATO countries' intelligences, and that part of the ex-KGB which is now working for them.

- And this can explain why my enemies recklessly let me escape easily to Malaysia in 2015, and it also explains why Muslims in Malaysia said me in different places "You did very well to come here".

- Now can you still imagine what would happen if I would go to USA to ask asylum? And why they were running subliminal message invitations to me but no facts. And I only found denied USA asylum case and it was because some ex-communist Romanian agents politically persecuted a Romanian, it's in the Well Founded Fear document report film from 1990s.

** 6 **

I need to make money somehow, and I just don't know how is it possible under this persecution.
What kind of Internet job is possible, or how else is possible to make / earn money in my own country?
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

** 1 **
A)
- I heard a story long ago I maybe even mentioned it here too, anyway; Some people / tribe lived up in a high mountain (or in somewhere like that) but nobody knew them, because anybody who went up there never came back. But the colonizer English came up with an idea, they sent local people to go there (I think they offered money etc), and then slowly the English almost gave it up because lack of success, but in the end a person surprisingly came back. In other words the English were fishing and it worked.

B)
- And sure secret services are still using this method too. But they can do this without offering money, - they just have to work on their persecuted targeted people, - then they just have to abuse their power with giving a reason to their crime victim to make him run away from NATO/Western world. And the victims will sponsor it from their own wealth.

C)
- That's what maybe my enemies did with me also, and probably they were fishing for many more reasons other than attacking FSB/SVR, and maybe they were looking for something else around Malaysia too, as even local people too asked from me "Why did you pick Malaysia?". But Muslims also said me "You did very well to come here".

- The weakness of this "fishing" is like the Stuxnex computer virus story. The virus was designed to attack and destroy the Iranian nuclear system, but in the end it mutated and returned home and caused problems in NATO, Western world.

D)
What was my enemies hope and plan with me when they let me to escape to Malaysia in 2015?
Could be that's a reason why Muslims helped me in Malaysia instead of destroying me?
Well my enemies too were involved when I came back from Malaysia with using their lobbies etc even in the first time and it wasn't just my own decision.

- And my life is hell in this persecution, but I'm not sure how wisely my enemies picked me to be a player in their enemies team, and sure these kind of people never gonna admit it maybe just blaming me the victim, and to be honest because they're that arrogant criminals. And their only plan "B" was "Go to USA" etc subliminal messages.
- My enemies are the EU/NATO/Western world's secret services, and those rich people too which lost businesses and power after Russia took over Crimea etc from Ukraine.

And if there is war then these racist, arrogant criminal authorities would mobilize me to fight for their criminal families, lol. And I can imagine how these authorities and army and NATO etc arrogantly laugh when they see my job searching emails and they may say this "Don't worry we will take you in asap if the mobilization will start".
- And that's why now I started to think about that I sent them many emails since 2022, and they did nothing, so now I have to use their corrupt ignore against them. Something like this "You never replied but ignored me and used me and you may even arrogantly laughed on my situation and you may think I will fight for your families, to attack those (Muslims, Asians, etc) who helped me against your racist corrupt crimes, and against those (Russians) who voluntarily talked with me to prove their innocent".

** 2 **

I have no idea how is it possible to make money under this persecution, even the Internet is not really a possible way, too many scam and wrong informations. I'm sure my enemies can run a great victim blaming campaign, but I understand with self critics that nothing works easily and nothing is impossible. But fact is AI / algorithm controls everything and moderators are setting the AI / algorithm.
- But what kind of piece of arrogant way is this? The West, NATO are ally of Hungary and they allow the ex-communist agents and their relatives to fully control/run Hungary, but the same West/NATO don't give any chance to earn money in persecution situations like mine?

** 3 **

I'm planing my next protest in Budapest, and lol it looks like the Belgium embassy isn't front of Dutch, Swedish embassies as the Internet showed me months ago. I only say it because I said that in this topic on 01 Nov 2023 that, but now my Internet / google map show it differently. - Well what can I say maybe they moved or more likely AI showed me wrongly. Just as when I was first time in Malaysia in 2015, there was Hungarian ambassador and the consulate was in Indonesia "BUT" the strange was the Internet gave me a wrong address in Kuala Lumpur which didn't really exist and security etc said there isn't any Hungarian embassy, ambassador etc. And few years later I visited the Hungarian embassy "at the correct address" but coincidently a security guy tried to gaslight me with saying the embassy wasn't there. So too many lies and all of them are benefiting my enemies.
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

** 1 **

03-01-2024. I sent this email to USA-, UK-, Swedish-, Dutch-, Russian- Embassies to inform them I will protest front of their embassies in Budapest on 10-01-2024.
And of course I will also protest front of Orban PM's home, FIDESZ/KDNP party headquarters and Kossuth tér/ Parliament too.

This is the email what I sent;
Címzett: -Orbán Viktor, Magyarország Miniszterelnöke, -Demeter Zoltán, -FIDESZ-KDNP politikai párt, -Semjén Zsolt
-Dr Kövér László; Országház Hivatala; -Országház; Országgyűlési Őrség, -Terror Háza Múzeum, Schmidt Mária,
-Kiss Zsolt, Főigazgató, Nemzeti Egészségbiztosítási Alapkezelő (NEAK),
-Dr Müller Cecília, országos tisztifőorvos, Nemzeti Népegészségügyi és Gyógyszerészeti Központ (NGYK),
-Dr Alakszai Zoltán, BAZ-Megyei Főispán, -Dr Asztalos Ágnes, főosztályvezető, Népegészségügyi Főosztály,
-Dr Hudák Zita, Edelényi Járási Hiv., -Dr Király Mária, Népegészségügyi Oszt.
-Dr Motkó Tamás, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Szabó Ilona, -Dr Lencár Márta, -Dr Tímár József, -Dr Rácz Zsigmond J.
-Szitka Péter, Polgármester Kazincbarcika, -Szabó Szilvia Foglalkoztatási Oszt., -Dr Agonás Lajos Béla Kbarcika Járási Hiv.
-Nagy Gábor Kazincbarcikai Rendőrkapitány, -Országos Rendőr Főkapitányság (ORFK),
-Budapesti Rendőr Főkapitányság (BRFK),-2ker, 5ker, 6ker, 12ker, 14ker, Budapest Rendőrkapitányság,
-Kazincbarcikai Járásbíróság, -Országos Bíróság Hivatal, stb Magyarországi Bíróságok,
-Kazincbarcikai Járási Ügyészség, -Központi Nyomozó Főügyészség, -Legfőbb Ügyészség, -stb Magyarországi Ügyészség,
-Dr Tuzson Bence Igazságügyi Miniszter, -Pintér Sándor Belügyminiszter, -Dr. Takács Péter egészségügyért felelős államtitkár,
-Oroszország Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, Sztaniszlavov Evgenij Arnoldovics Nagykövet, -Oroszország Kormánya, -SVR, -FSB,
-Brit Nagykövetség Magyarországon, -U.S.A. Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, -David Pressman Nagykövet, FBI, CIA,
-Svéd Nagykövetség Magyarországon, -Holland Nagykövetség Magyarországon,
Csatolás: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hu
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 20231216Otthon.JPG; KimarN20231115Bp.JPG
Tárgy: Kommunista rasszizmus ellen véleménynyilvánítás/ Munka/Pénz kérés dátuma
Tisztelt Cím!
Ismételten a véleményemet (egyedül) akarom kinyilvánítani Budapesten, és munkát/ pénzt kérni. -Ez néhány perc lenne. -Egyedül és békésen akarok menni transzparensekkel és némán, ragasztószalaggal a számon (hogy bizonyítsam hogy némán csinálom ezt). -És videó felvételt és fényképeket akarok csinálni a teljes eseményről.
Ennek dátuma és helyszíne: 2024, január, 10,
Orbán Viktor Miniszterelnök otthona 1121 Budapest Cinege út 5;, -Brit Nagykövetség 1022 Füge utca 5-7
Svéd Nagykövetség / -Holland Nagykövetség 1027, Kapás u. 6-12
Kossuth tér/ Parlament; -USA Nagykövetség 1054 Szabadság tér 12, -Orosz Nagykövetség 1062 Bajza út 35,
FIDESZ Székház 1062 Lendvay utca 28; -KDNP Székház 1141 Bazsarózsa út 69
Indoklás; Mert a hatóságok rasszista kommunista bűnei, korrupciói elnyomják az emberi jogaimat és veszélyeztetik az életemet Magyarországon 2015 óta. - De a tények lassan azt mutatják, hogy ezt az üldöztetést azok a (ex)kommunista ügynökök (és családjaik, stb) csinálják, akik most a Nyugatnak és a NATO-nak dolgoznak, és vagy képviselik azokat. -És több alkalommal küldtem e-mailt a Terrorháza Múzeumnak mert bizonyítékot akarok kapni a kommunista történelmi bűncselekményről, mivel a magyar hatóságok tagadják és paranoia jelének hívják ezek ismeretét is. A Múzeum sosem válaszolt idáig.
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Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem.
- Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben.
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- Név: Kimár Norbert, - Lakcím: Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
- Születési idő, hely, Állampolgárság: 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2024, január, 03,
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul, In English. ***
To: -Viktor Orbán, Prime Minister of Hungary, -Zoltán Demeter, -FIDESZ-KDNP political party, -Zsolt Semjén,
-Dr László Kövér; Office of Parliament; -Parliament; Guards of Parliament; -House of Terror Museum, Mária Schmidt,
-Zsolt Kiss, Director General, Tasks of the National Health Insurance Fund of Hungary (NEAK),
-Dr Cecília Müller, National Chief Medical Officer, National Center for Public Health and Pharmacy (NCPHP), (NGYK),
-Dr Zoltán Alaszkai Lord Lieutenant BAZ County Govt Office, -Dr Ágnes Asztalos, National Public Health Department,
-Dr Zita Hudák, District Office of Edelény; -Dr Mária Király, National Public Health Dept.
-Dr Tamás Motkó, -Lászlóné Kovács Mária, -Ilona Szabó, -Dr Márta Lencár, -Dr József Tímár, -Dr Rácz Zsigmond J.
-Péter Szitka, Mayor of Kazincbarcika, -Szilvia Szabó Employment Dept., -Dr Lajos Béla Agonás District Office of Kbarcika,
-Gábor Nagy police chief of Kazincbarcika, -National (Country) Police Headquarters (ORFK),
-Budapest Police Headquarters (BRFK), -2ker, 5ker, 6ker, 12ker, 14ker, Budapest Police Headquarters,
-Kazincbarcika District Court, -National Office for Judiciary, etc Hungarian Courts,
-Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, -Central Chief Prosecution Office of Investigation, -Supreme Prosecution Office, etc Hungarian Prosecution,
-Dr Bence Tuzson Minister of Justice, -Sándor Pintér Minister of Interior, -Dr Péter Takács Secretary of State for Health,
-Russian Embassy in Hungary, -Stanislavov Evgeniy Arnoldovich Ambassador, -Government of Russia, -SVR, -FSB,
-Brit Embassy in Hungary, -U.S.A. Embassy in Hungary, -David Pressman Ambassador, FBI, CIA,
-Swedish Embassy in Hungary, -Netherlands Embassy in Hungary,
Attachment: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; 2020-Marc-07_To-SVR-Demeter-Hu
2021-01-15_To-Museum_3.pdf; 202305TBTaxAid.PDF; 20231216Otthon.JPG; KimarN20231115Bp.JPG
Subject: Date of Expressing opinion against communist racism/ Asking Job/Money
Dear Sir, Madam,
I repeatedly want (alone) to express my opinion in Budapest, and to ask for a job/ money.-This would be a few minutes. -I want to walk alone and peacefully with my banners and mutely, with duct-tape on my mouth (to prove I'm doing it mutely). -And I want to make video recordings and photos about the entire event.
It's date and location: 10, January, 2024,
Viktor Orbán's home 1121 Budapest Cinege út 5; -British Embassy 1022 Füge utca 5-7
Swedish Embassy / -Netherlands Embassy 1027, Kapás u. 6-12
Kossuth tér/ Parliament; -USA Embassy 1054 Szabadság tér 12, -Russian Embassy 1062 Bajza ut 35
FIDESZ Headquarters 1062 Lendvay utca 28; -KDNP Headquarters 1141 Bazsarózsa ut 69
Reasoning; Because the authorities racist communist crimes, corruption have been oppressing my human rights and endangering my life in Hungary since 2015. - But the facts are slowly showing that those (ex-)communist agents (and their families, etc) are doing this persecution which are now working for the West and NATO, and or representing those. -And I sent emails many times to House of Terror Museum because I want to get proof about communist historical crimes, because the Hungarian authorities deny and call sign of paranoia the knowledge of these too. The Museum never replied.
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Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor.
- I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution.
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- Name: Mr. Norbert Kimár, - Address: Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
- Birth place, date, Nationality; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
03, January, 2024. Hungary
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár

And I also informed the UK Embassy on their facebook message and I tweeted it on David Cameron's X too, and on BBC's X account also. I hope it works if not then next time I may ask for example SA, Asian etc embassies in Hungary to help UK securities.
- All because last time they said me that they didn't receive my email and for that they illegal asked the police to ban me to express my opinion front of them, therefore I had to do it away from th embassy.
- And I also tweeted my email to Hungarian Police's X account too.

** 2 **

And I started to make a new banner onto my home's fence, it will be about what I feel in this persecution.
It's very similar to what I wrote to Reuters and Yahoo in my date of 19-December email.

This is that part of 19-Dec email what I'm using;

"That's what I feel in this persecution;
It's like Russia (FSB / SVR) has enemies in Western / EU / NATO world, and these enemies are controlling this persecution as a false-flag weapon to force/blackmail me to be a cannon fodder activist against Russia. (And the FIDESZ-KDNP govt looked at me also as a free campaign as long as my protests sounded only against the ex-communist left wing.)
- You fight as an activist against the ex-KGB / ex-communist agents because of their former human rights crimes, based on your missing human rights against their racist prejudice / bias. -- Or you go to our corrupt / racist ex-communist psychiatric hospitals and lose even more of your human rights there like a mental ill patient. -- Because we corruptly state that; -- our harassment etc crimes against you is just your imagination and never happened, -- and we investigated ourselves and we didn't find any error / problem with our false medical reports in your health documents / insurance."
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

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On 10-01-2024, in Budapest Hungary. I expressed my opinion (protest), because of racist communist crime against my life.
-1, Viktor Orbán PM's family home,
-2, UKt Embassy,
-3, Dutch / Swedish Embassies
-4, in Kossuth square next to Parliament,
-5, USA Embassy,
-6 Russian Embassy,
-7, FIDESZ government party’s headquarter.
-8, KDNP government party’s headquarter.
-- I put duct-tape on my mouth because on 2021 November the police lied me in their custody/ and on court that the Swedish Embassy reported me to the police also but Swedish did it earlier and they didn't want to punish me with police.
- But I asked the Swedish Foreign Ministry after police let me out and they said me that Swedish Embassy "did not contact the police in this matter".. And the Hungarian police in 2021 November when they took me from my expressing opinion/ protest they deleted my videos from my phone even the corrupt arrest.

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-1, Viktor Orbán PM's family home,
I pressed the door bell and the guard came out immediately, but he said me there is no job and no money.
And I said then I will express my opinion and he said okay in the other side of the small road (that's my usual place).
- And when I was making photos suddenly the driver of Orbán's car drove to the gate and a guard came close to me and Orbán PM appeared and went to his car. He said me "Good morning" and he waved with his hand to me to say hello / greetings.
- Well to be honest for me it was out of blue, I wasn't accepted that (journalists have experience in this situations), and the duct tape was on my mouth and my long selfi with camera on it was in my hand.
I only waved back with my hand as a hello, a greeting.
I'm still thinking was I wrong or it was better this way, because my banner showed what I want and the guards knew it already.
But what if he gave me a moment if I asked it?
As they say "It's only hard to ask if you tell yourself reasons why you shouldn't not ask."

But logically it's 99% sure he wouldn't do anything because otherwise other people too would go to his home, because it worked for me and those would copy me. So I have to think about his office too next time.

(The body guards acted as professionals do, they were silent and not disturbing me, but they showed me they were working.)

-2, UK Embassy,
I went straight to the police, and he said he knew nothing about me nor about my email etc, and I showed him the Interior Ministry (BM) robot reply and police accepted it. Then he made 1-2 minutes long phone call, and then he wrote down data from ID (as usual thing), then he asked the age of my mother (unusual thing). And after that he gave back my ID and he said I can do it.
Oh and he asked why I want to express my opinion here at the UK embassy. I said him because it's a NATO country and I can't work not even as a soldier. And I forgot to tell him also because UK was EU member when this persecution started and the stalking/phone hacking etc started when I was living in UK, but earlier I did inform UK (I believe even the MI5 too) and I'm stick with these reasons too. Always the same repeated story in many times "I'm new in this case and I'd like to hear it now, I don't know where are those emails what you sent to us, etc", it's like the system is trying to over minimize it and blame it on me..
I didn't talk with the embassy, and I didn't see the guards etc.

-3, Dutch / Swedish Embassies,
I only talked with the receptionist he said he doesn't care that, well it's a public area and he has no duty there.
I didn't talk with anybody else.

-4, in Kossuth square next to Parliament,
The guard was polite and fast. And I did the short protest walk, because the direction to USA embassy.
I coincidently set my camera to VGA.. and I only noticed it in the next day, so the photos were weaker quality from here.

-5, USA Embassy, (it's in the Szabadság tér in English "Freedom square").
This was more interesting than earlier.
And that's how I can describe the guards; "arrogantly stupid". We talked in Hungarian, and I started to record it on my phone from the middle of it.
- So before I began to express my opinion, I had a long argument with the guards, the guards were recklessly arrogant /disrespectful and they laughed on me in a mocking way and they tried to gaslight me. And the guards gave me the same email address on fly paper what I got from them earlier too (but this time they didn't call it top secret). Well I've been using that email since December, but not even a robot reply came back. Maybe it's an electronic trick also and that's why it's not on their web page and they said me in November "don't publish it on Internet", like when police touch the rear light of the car to leave their fingerprints for tracking.. (Well if it is then they know how not to dress down their security do they?)

A),
The guard tried to gaslight me like a tricky "smart as..." and with arrogant mocking smile on his face (it wasn't that bad as at FIDESZ headquarters was in 2021).
And he said the FBI only trained "special police units" in Hungary. And I asked what kind of police units and how did FBI do the psychiatric / psychological examination on these police? But no answer, he just reacted like who got upset with my questions. lol, and he sounded like he is about to over minimize the power of the "FBI trained Hungarian police" like an Internet AI troll in rescue mission.
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- He asked from me "Why do you want to do it (protest) here in front of the USA embassy?"
I said him because I want to protest against USA in this human rights crime. I can't work not even as a soldier because of this (human rights crime), and he said with smiling "They don't take you to be soldier with mental problems..". I wonder who authorized him to say that, and how reliable his answer is?
And by the way sometimes he was just guard who can't represent the embassy officially, and sometimes he talked like he knew what he said which could mean he was representing the embassy. But he can't do that because it would mean he's not working for the embassy in the "unofficial, etc" moments. It's misleading like with dogs next to camp side "they're ours but if they do wrong against you then not ours".
Typical gaslight trolling just as the corrupt Hungarian authorities have been doing all the time.
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B),
- And then I got tired with their behaviour and I said that;
"Most meg fogom buktatni a biztonságukat, jó?"
in English; "Now I'm going to wreck your security, okay?".
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"- Mi van ha történik valami a Nagykövetségnél, és én vagyok az egyedüli tanú és azt mondom hogy addig nem mondok semmit amíg vissza nem kapom az emberi jogaimat?".
In English; "- What if something happens at the Embassy and I'm the only witness and I say that I will not say anything until I get back my human rights?".

- He responded something like this with laughing; "Szólok a rendőröknek / A rendőrök megmondják",
in English; "I will tell the police / The police will tell", (the police were inside the embassy's area).

- And then I asked this; "És mi van akkor ha az a személy azt mondja hogy nem igaz amit a rendőrök mondanak?".
In English; "And what if that person says that what the police say is not true?".

- But the guard didn't answer me, and then suddenly a food delivery guy arrived to the security booth, and the guard used this moment to sneak (go) back to his booth, and he was smiling from inside (mocking). And I tried to have a conversation with the "food delivery guy" by asking "Where are you from?" etc.
- And suddenly an Asian woman arrived (I believe she was an embassy staff) to take her food, and I was left alone next to them and the mocking arrogant guard was inside. And maybe she was a security staff or not, but she didn't dress like that and she didn't look like that, and she acted like a usual innocent customer of the food delivery who has no idea what's going on.
Great right, a person tells the mocking guard he's about to wreck the security, but the guard instead of answering he rather sneaks back to his booth and smiles meanwhile a female embassy staff just arrived to buy food from a guy..
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- Well they say "There is a fine line between crazy (mentally ill) and genius";
For example few days ago in the news "A man (with mental illness record) jumped on the judge in a court in Vegas. Some say probably because the judge used wrong words and the security of the court didn't exist in that moment. Link; https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vi ... rcna132212
https:/ /www. nbcnews. com/news/us-news/video-shows-felon-lunging-bench-attack-nevada-judge-sentencing-rcna132212
- So what if the "mocked" protester/person would be a mentally ill and he would use that moment to attack that woman who seems like a staff of the embassy?
Especially when the guard was arrogantly smiling on him (mocking him) even from inside the security booth too, and guards were already warned by this person "he wants to wreck the security system".


This is a weakness of their security, for some reason the embassy uses recklessly, arrogantly stupid people to provide security, Gandhi was right about smile/laugh. I've never been in Kabul nor in Vietnam but the embassy reminded me to the reckless syndrome of USA in Kabul/Vietnam even in my first time there in November.
- I already reported this to USA Embassy, FBI, in email and to the CIA too (a good way to attack them and I will send more reports about this day);

This is the email;
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely; Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika; Magyar,
Magyarország, 2024, január, 11

Címzett; -U.S.A. Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, -David Pressman Nagykövet, FBI, CIA,
Tárgy: A biztonságról / About security
Csatolás; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; KimarN_USemb.JPG

Tisztelt Cím!
2023-01-10-én (tegnap) véleményemet nyilvánítottam (1 személyes tüntetés) az Önök nagykövetsége előtt, és szeretném elmondani a tapasztalataimat az Önök nagykövetségének biztonságáról.

A,
Mielőtt elkezdtem volna kinyilvánítani a véleményemet, vitám volt az örökkel, az őrök arrogánsak / tiszteletlenek voltak és nevettek rajtam, gúnyosan.
- És belefáradtam a viselkedésükbe, és ezt mondtam; "Most meg fogom buktatni a biztonságukat, jó?"
"- Mi van ha történik valami a Nagykövetségnél, és én vagyok az egyedüli tanú és azt mondom hogy addig nem mondok semmit amíg vissza nem kapom az emberi jogaimat?"
- Valami ilyesmit válaszolt rajtam nevetve; "Szólok a rendőröknek / A rendőrök megmondják" (a rendőrök bent voltak a nagykövetség területén).
- És utána ezt kérdeztem; "És mi van akkor ha az a személy azt mondja hogy nem igaz amit a rendőrök mondanak?"
De az őr nem válaszolt nekem, és aztán hirtelen megérkezett egy ételszállító srác, és az őr ezt a pillanatot arra használta, hogy visszaosonjon (menjen) a biztonsági fülkébe, és belülről mosolygott (gúnyolódva).
És megpróbáltam beszélgetni az "ételszállító sráccal" azzal a kérdéssel, hogy "Honnan jöttél?", de hirtelen megérkezett egy ázsiai nő (azt hiszem, a nagykövetség munkatársa volt), hogy elvigye az ételét, én pedig egyedül maradtam mellettük és bent volt a gúnyos arrogáns őr.

B,
- Nos, azt mondják "Van egy finom határvonal az őrült (elmebeteg) és a zseni között";
Például néhány nappal ezelőtt a hírekben "Egy férfi (elmebeteg rekordja volt) ráugrott a bíróra a bíróságon Vegasban. Néhányan azt mondják valószínűleg azért, mert a bíró rossz szavakat használt, és a bíróságnak a biztonsága abban a pillanatban nem létezett. Link; https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vi ... rcna132212
- Tehát mi van akkor, ha a "kinevetett / gúnyolt" tüntető egy elmebeteg lenne, és ezt a pillanatot arra használja fel, hogy megtámadja azt a nőt, aki egy nagykövetségi személyzetnek tűnik?
Főleg, amikor az őr még a biztonsági bódén belülről is mosolygót rajta (gúnyolta), és ez a személy már figyelmeztette az őröket, hogy "a biztonsági rendszert akarja megbuktatni".
- Nos, én esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy mentálisan egészséges személy vagyok, és egy politikailag motivált pszichiátriai csalási kísérlet áldozata vagyok. És ahogy itt is kihasználtam az alkalmat, hogy továbbra is bizonyítsam, hogy az Önök nagykövetségének biztonsági problémái vannak, technikailag a zseniális emberek útmutatóját használtam.
- És úgy gondolom, hogy a nagykövetségnek több biztonsági problémája is van, és még egy fiatal rendőrnőt is egy másfajta problémába sodorták, de a következő levelemben beszélek azokról. Mert úgy gondolom, hogy ennek az ázsiai hölgynek / a követségi személyzetének személyesen ismernie kell ezt a biztonsági részt, minél hamarabb.
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Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul, In English. ***

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date; Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972; Hungarian,
11, January, 2024. Hungary

To: -U.S.A. Embassy in Hungary, -David Pressman Ambassador, FBI, CIA,
Attachment: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; KimarN_USemb.JPG

Subject: A biztonságról / About security

Dear Sir, Madam,
On 10-01-2023 (yesterday) I expressed my opinion (1 person protest) in front of your embassy, and I'd like to tell my experiences about your Embassy's securities.

A,
Before I began to express my opinion, I had an argument with the guards, the guards were arrogant /disrespectful and they laughed at me, mocking.
- And I got tired with their behavior and I said that; "Most meg fogom buktatni a biztonságukat, jó?" in English; "Now I'm going to wreck your security, okay?".
"- Mi van ha történik valami a Nagykövetségnél, és én vagyok az egyedüli tanú és azt mondom hogy addig nem mondok semmit amíg vissza nem kapom az emberi jogaimat?". In English; "- What if something happens at the Embassy and I am the only witness and I say that I will not say anything until I get back my human rights?".
- He responded something like this with laughing on me; "Szólok a rendőröknek / A rendőrök megmondják", in English; "I will tell the police / The police will tell", (the police were inside the embassy's area).
- And then I asked this; "És mi van akkor ha az a személy azt mondja hogy nem igaz amit a rendőrök mondanak?". In English; "And what if that person says that what the police say is not true?".
But the guard didn't answer me, and then suddenly a food delivery guy arrived, and the guard used this moment to sneak (go) back to the security booth, and he was smiling from inside (mocking). And I tried to have a conversation with the "food delivery guy" by asking "Where are you from?", but suddenly an Asian woman arrived (I believe she was an embassy staff) to take her food, and I was left alone next to them and the mocking arrogant guard was inside.

B,
- Well they say "There is a fine line between crazy (mentally ill) and genius";
For example few days ago in the news "A man (he had mental illness record) jumped on the judge in the court in Vegas. Some say probably because the judge used wrong words and the security of the court didn't exist at that moment. Link; https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/vi ... rcna132212
- So what if the "mocked" protester person would be a mentally ill and he would use that moment to attack that woman who seems like a staff of the embassy?
Especially when the guard was smiling on him (mocking him) even from inside the security booth too, and guards were already warned by this person "he wants to wreck the security system".
- Well I swear and state that I'm mentally healthy person and I'm a victim of an attempt of politically motivated psychiatric fraud. And just as here too I used the opportunity to continue to prove your embassy's security has issues, technically I used the guide of the genius people.
- And I believe the embassy has more security issues too, and they even put a young police woman into another kind of problem, but I will talk about those in my next letter. Because I believe this Asian lady / embassy staff personally should know this security part in asap.
**
Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár

C),
The guards and police talked about and showed me the American "Don't make photography" sign on the fence.

I told the guard that is USA area and it's not legal to take photos from outside. And the guard replied me "Szövetségi terület" in English "Federal teritorry" and therefore you can't take photo of it and he smiled kind of mocking way.
- Yep he played the "security/lawyer trick", meanwhile the Internet is full with this kind of security/lawyer tricks when they unlawfully try to limit human rights and not to mention it's on google map = google uncovers their lies.
So I said both of them it's on the google street-view map too, so what is the difference me and Google?
Well of course none of them could answer.. and the guard just mockingly smiled again like a braindead arrogant troll who is fishing and trying to bull.
I told the police that sign is in English and not in Hungarian, and what's with those who don't speak English?! She said "the camera sign is on it".
And I even said to the police that I have photo from the embassy from last time protest and it's on my facebook, etc so then file a report, but she was silent.
The police was young and maybe naively misled by securities, but that's not how it works and limits my rights.

- I'm 100% sure that American sign means "Don't take photo inside the embassy's area", and they use it to mislead people / to reduce human rights in public area. And as far as I know the law says this kind of signs count only from that part where it is, so it was on the fence so from the fence, unless the sign also says a different distance, like the traffic. signs works. And signs have to respect the protocls of host countries and it would mean written it in Hungarian too.

And whose training etc taught the police to say that, the FBI's?
- Deja vu.. too many fishing lawyer tricks to reduce human rights, just as anywhere else around in my case too.

D),
I asked again this time too;
"How far do I have to be from the embassy in this expressing opinion (protest)?".
And they always tried to send me to the Soviet memory or behind it to the other side of the square..
- Here we go again the false flag trick; "It's the Russians and not our fault, so go to the Soviet memory and attack it..". For example in 2006 some protesters got angry with the govt and they occupied the state TV headquarter in this square, and they also attacked this Soviet memory too. And next month was a police terror brutality in the 1956 anniversary. And the USA embassy agreed with use of police brutality in TV, maybe they led her to say it or not. But protesters went to jail, trial etc, it was a kind of **J6 ** then govt lost the next election.
- I don't like communism, neither Soviet memories but this 2006 too shows that what a sensitively tricky political game is around me.
I don't think West gonna end in Hungary like in Kabul or in Vietnam etc, but I can tell they're scared to end up like Russia in 1956 when their Hungarian agents were hanged up by legs with money in their mouths.
***
Now next time I will ask "how close" instead "how far" can I be to the embassy.
By the way there was a similar story about Orbán PM's home, protester people unlawfully were banned to protest there, and then people sue them and then even the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) said the protest was illegally banned.
So I have to ask why USA embassy limited my rights there.
**
- I don't want to throw mud, but I was thinking how they would feel if somebody goes to a public WC just to put a "USA embassy" sign on its wall and take some protest photos. Because that's where to these arrogant securities are reducing everything and "it's not their fault". Police station couldn't even write a report because it would be bigger shame, so "You see he is mentally ill, and it's not about our recklessly corrupt behavior pushed him too far to wreck our system".

As I said to the Dutch also "- Well these are what we can experience when the carelessly corrupt parts of Western secret services are recycling the ex-KGB's Hungarian part with cost any." I would be surprised if these guards were not from ex-commie agent families, who bankrupt communism and then they switched side.
***

- What a democratic reflection from the USA embassy in the Freedom square right?? no photography, don't protest here, etc.. go to the Soviet memory, - and we prefer to remain silent and/or gaslight you about this racist ex-KGB commie crime against your life inside NATO world, so don't come here.. but you're with us against Russia via NATO even though Russians have been trying to prove their innocence in this false flag crime against your life. And yes we have fun only with ex-commie Hungarians and with their families in our embassy.
***
E),

The guard went into the booth and I went to the young police woman, she was behind the fence inside the embassy's area and I was outside.
I told her;

"Maga nem fogja vissza adni az emberi jogaimat mert kifog találni valamit, mindenki kitalál valamit hogy miért nem lehet vissza adni az emberi jogaimat, bár a törvény kötelezné rá, ugyan úgy mint bárki mást. És éppen ezért kérem ezt, hogy legalább hogyan tudok véleményt nyilvánítani itt az Amerikai nagykövetség ellen.
Itt vagy ott? Vagy merre, milyen messzire kell elmennem az Amerikai nagykövetségtől?"
"-Tér túloldalára minimum."

In English;
"You're not going to give me back my human rights because you're going to invent something (gaslight), everyone invents something (gaslight) about why it's not possible to give me back my human rights, even though the law would oblige you, just as anybody else. And that's why I'm asking this, so at least how can I express my opinion here against the USA embassy. Here or there? Or where, how far do I have to go from the American Embassy?"
To the other side of the square, minimum."

****

"De ha háború van akkor maga engem bevisz, hogy ha kiadják magának parancsba hogy be kell vinni.
Akkor maga parancsot teljesít és nem pedig az emberi jogaimat. Hogy menjek öljem meg azt az Oroszt aki kijön a nagykövetségről, hogy beszéljen velem hogy bizonyítsa az ártatlanságát. Itt kezdődik az egészben a bűncselekmény, a még nagyobb."

"In English
But if there is a war then you will take me in, if they give you an order to take (me) in.
Then you are following orders and not my human rights. (order me) to go to kill that Russian who comes out of the embassy to talk to me to prove his/her innocence. This is where the crime begins, the even bigger one."


********
**
And I just wonder what does it mean for the USA securities what I said to the police while she was working inside USA embassy?
Let me guess, it was nothing because she had no duty with what I just said to her, -and she was inside USA, -just as USA's NATO part too can ignore it. And FBI has only connection to special police units in Hungary but not with police inside the embassy, - and FBI doesn't mined this meanwhile FBI web page says that the FBI too is inside the embassy.
-* But if there is mobilization order then police can take me and USA guards would smile on me again.
- And sure they all can explain that, nobody sends people to kill embassy staffs. And I didn't say anything about killing those Russian citizens whom the Russian embassy represented when they voluntarily tried to prove their countries innocence of this false flag persecution crime against me.
- And sure same goes about killing/attacking under order those Muslims etc people without whom I'd be dead already in this persecution.
- And how does the complaining/protest work against the chances of future war crimes in expressing opinions/protests in NATO world?

And mobilization are known as corrupt.
- And by the way they said me that even the knowledge about the communist crimes is paranoia. So victims of communist crimes and their supporters can be free from mobilization in NATO/EU countries or they can't be? Let me guess those are the cannon fodders.
And can we get protection from USA embassy if war breaks out and mobilization isn't that what they promised to us? Or people like me will be ignored by smiling USA guards in that time too?
***
So same question just as was about UK embassy;
Why is USA embassy scared from my protest / from my banners in front of them?
Why are they trying to control with limitation my protest in public area (probably unlawfully)?
And why USA embassy doesn't want to be seen on my protest photos on Internet?
Why are they trying to manipulate, control my evidence photos with limiting my rights (probably unlawfully)?
Why does the embassy prefer to use arrogantly "stupid" guards?

Do chickens come home to roots?
Are they scared from my opinions, banners and therefore they unlawfully want to limit my rights?
- when they reject my rights by expressing my opinion close to them, then they are limiting my human rights in public area.
- and when they say the embassy can't be on my expressing opinion photo, then technically they want to limit/manipulate my collecting of evidences about my expressing opinion, (and ironically the ambassador's name is "Pressman").
- And my enemies are those ex-communist agents and their families which now working for EU / NATO counties. And the authorities which falsified my health documents, insurances are members of NATO and EU and they are ex-members of Russian communism or belong to them.
**
In the end I went to the same place next to the 1st Bush sculpture where I was earlier and the background was USA embassy again, and nobody tried to stop me.

***
F),

Yes I had situations with Russian Embassy too -1, when a Hungarian soldier guard said me "The Embassy said me to send you away because you're blocking their way" but he too was wondering about it because everything was deserted, and just I and he was on the street nobody else, but maybe it was a prank phone call or not, but fact is I stayed there.
-2, Once when an upset Russian came out and took some photos and said something to me what I didn't understand because he spoke in Russian, and then he went back to the embassy. But he had right to take photo and at least it meant they were thinking about my situation in that time too. And maybe he was upset because he a had day which is acceptable, but he didn't use mocking smile on me.
- All together the "negative and positve" shows that the Russians voluntarily wanted to prove their innocence even in my first protest and they didn't cross the line unlike USA, or the UK embassy in November.
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Edit;
-6 Russian Embassy,
Police were polite and I did the same expressing opinion (protest) as always, nothing else happened.

-7, FIDESZ government party’s headquarter.
Nobody was outside and I did the same expressing opinion (protest) as always, nothing else happened.

-8, KDNP government party’s headquarter.
Nobody was outside and I did the same expressing opinion (protest) as always, nothing else happened.
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

** 1 **
2024-01-16,
I put a new placard onto the fence at home, it shows what I feel in this persecution it's in Hungarian and in English ;
Ezt érzem ebben az üldözésben;
a Nyugat, NATO kérésre azok az ex-kommunista ügynökök és családjaik stb csinálják ezt
bal és jobb oldalt akik most az EU-nak, NATO-nak dolgoznak, - mint egy hamis-zászlós fegyvert irányítják, hogy rákényszerítsenek/zsaroljanak engem, hogy ágyútöltelék aktivista legyek az Oroszok ellen. (És a FIDESZ-KDNP kormány is ingyen kampánynak tekintett engem mindaddig, amíg a tiltakozásaim csak az exkommunista baloldal ellen szóltak.)

- Aktivistaként harcolsz az ex-KGB / ex-kommunista ügynökök ellen a korábbi emberi jogi bűncselekményeik miatt, a hiányzó emberi jogaid alapján a rasszista előítéleteik / elfogultságaik ellen. -- Vagy bemész a korrupt/rasszista ex-kommunista pszichiátriai kórházainkba és ott még többet veszítesz az emberi jogaidból.
-- Mivel mi korruptan azt állítjuk; -- az ellened elkövetett zaklatásaink és bűncselekményeink csak a képzeleted, és soha nem történtek meg, -- és mi kivizsgáltuk önmagunkat, és nem találtunk semmi hibát / problémát a hamis orvosi jelentéseinkkel kapcsolatban az egészségügyi okmányaidban / biztosításodban.

That's what I feel in this persecution;
at West, NATO’s request those ex-communist agents and their families, etc are doing this on left & right side which now working for EU, NATO, - they're controlling it as a false-flag weapon to force/blackmail me to be a cannon fodder activist against Russians. (And FIDESZ-KDNP govt too looked at me as a free campaign as long my protests sounded only against the ex-communist left wing.)

- You fight as an activist against the ex-KGB / ex-communist agents because of their former human rights crimes, based on your missing human rights against their racist prejudice / bias. -- Or you go to our corrupt / racist ex-communist psychiatric hospitals and lose even more of your human rights there.
-- Because we corruptly state that; -- our harassment etc crimes against you is just your imagination and never happened, -- and we investigated ourselves and we didn't find any error / problem with our false medical reports in your health documents / insurance.
** 2 **
15-01-2024, I sent email to the Pope this was the 8th time, it was the same usual email to ask him to talk to the Hungarian FIDESZ-KDNP govt to stop their racist communist crime against my life. Persecution officially started under this govt in 2015. And KDNP Christian Democratic People's Party control led the health care in that time.
This time also I sent it to their postmaster @ vatican.va, but again I got the usual robot reply
I'm sorry to have to inform you that your message could not
be delivered to one or more recipients. It's attached below.
For further assistance, please send mail to postmaster.
There was a time when they received my email but anyway I twitted my email onto the Pope's X account again.

** 3 **
I sent the usual email to the Hungarian authorities, politicians etc and to the Russian emb, FSB, SVR to inform them I will express my opinion in Kazincbarcika on 24-01-2024. Because of the racist discriminative communist crime against my life.

** 4 **
The local jobcenter asked me to visit them on 26-01-2024, they want to check something, and sure it won't be about giving me back my human rights.

** 5 **
21-01-2024, I sent the 2nd email to USA embassy connecting to my earlier expressing opinions.
I talked about what their security did to me, and I asked them to give me information about the rules of photography the embassy from Hungarian public area. And I asked where is the free place in Hungarian public place to express my opinion against their embassy. I'm tired with spending my time to tell them their each security weaknesses so I wrote this email.
Lakcím; Magyarország, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai út 56,
Születési idő, hely/ Állampolgárság/ Etnikum; 1972,05,19, Kazincbarcika/ Magyar,
Magyarország, 2024, január, 21

Címzett; -U.S.A. Nagykövetsége Magyarországon, -David Pressman Nagykövet, FBI, CIA,
Csatolás; KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; KimarN_USemb.JPG; 20240111KimarN.pdf
Tárgy: A biztonságról-2 / About security-2

Tisztelt Cím!
Ezt az e-mailt a 2024-01-11 dátumú emailemmel kapcsolatban küldöm Önöknek (email csatolva 20240111KimarN.pdf). Mivel hosszan vitatkoztam a nagykövetség őreivel és a rendőrséggel a véleménynyilvánításhoz való alapvető jogaimról 2024-01-10-én.
A,
1,) -Azt mondták, hogy a nagykövetség nem lehet a véleménynyilvánító fotóimon (a 2023-11-15-i véleménynyilvánításomon is ezt mondták). - De ezzel manipulálják a bizonyíték fotóimat a véleménynyilvánításomról. - És a rendőrség azt is mondta mert a nagykövetség nem lehet az interneten, de ez megakadályozza a bizonyíték fotóim közzétételét.
Indoklásom; - Csak egy amerikai "No photography" (angol nyelvű) táblát mutattak, és az a nagykövetség kerítésén volt. De ez a tábla csak a nagykövetségi területén belüli biztonsági szabályt mutatja és nem a magyar közterületen. - Mondtam nekik, hogy a nagykövetség még a Google (utcakép) térképen is szerepel, és láttam embereket, akik közterületen fényképezték a nagykövetséget, és sok fotó van ezzel a nagykövetséggel az interneten. Ezért nem értem, mi a különbség köztem és közöttük. - De nem tudtak válaszolni nekem. - Ezért a végén azt mondtam az őröknek, hogy hivatalos (írásos) tájékoztatást akarok a szabályokról. És az őr azt mondta, hogy megadják nekem, ezért ebben az e-mailben is szeretném ezt az információt kérni.
rendőrség 2:20; őr 6:10 Youtube link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?
**
2,) Ezzel próbálták manipulálni a közterületi véleménynyilvánításhoz való jogomat; "Menj a tér másik oldalára, vagy a Szovjet Emlékműhöz". - Még mindig nem tudom, hol kezdődik a szabad terület a véleménynyilvánításomon a nagykövetség előtt a közterületen, ezért ebben az e-mailben is kérem ezt az információt.
B,
- Megdöbbentő ahogy a biztonság arroganciája vákuumot kreált, és az rákényszerített engem, hogy törvényesen felhasználjam azt ellenük ahol csak tudom, még megbuktatni is. Évekkel ezelőtt Malajziában az USA nagykövetség őrsége udvariasan és egyenesen irányította a szolgáltatást és a vendéget (engem) és nem fordítva, bár én csak vízuminformációt kérdeztem. Úgy gondolom, hogy a következők tükrözik az üldöztetést és korrupciót a NATO, EU országok biztonságaiban.

- Sajnos csak az utolsó felét kezdtem rögzíteni a teljes beszélgetéseknek. Youtube link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?
A rendőrség bent volt a követség területén, és ezt mondtam nekik;
- 1:55, "Maga (rendőr) nem fogja visszaadni az emberi jogaimat mert ki fog találni valamit, mindenki kitalál valamit hogy miért nem lehet visszaadni az emberi jogaimat, bár a törvény kötelezné rá, ugyanúgy mint bárki mást. És éppen ezért kérem ezt, hogy legalább hogyan tudok véleményt nyilvánítani itt az Amerikai nagykövetség ellen. Itt vagy ott? Vagy merre, milyen messzire kell elmennem az Amerikai nagykövetségtől?"
Rendőr válasza; "-Tér túloldalára minimum."
- 4:13, "De ha háború van akkor maga (rendőr) engem bevisz, hogy ha kiadják magának parancsba hogy be kell vinni. Akkor maga parancsot teljesít és nem pedig az emberi jogaimat. Hogy menjek öljem meg azt az Oroszt aki kijön a nagykövetségről, hogy beszéljen velem hogy bizonyítsa az ártatlanságát. Itt kezdődik az egészben a bűncselekmény, a még nagyobb."
*
Megjegyzés: - Esküszöm és kijelentem, hogy szellemileg egészséges személy vagyok és soha sem voltam semmilyen pszichiátriai vizsgálaton Magyarországon, és nem létezik semmilyen törvényes pszichiátriai vizsgálati eredmény ami „mentális betegséget” bizonyítana rólam, se külföldön se Magyarországon. -És Dr Motkó Tamás nem válaszolt a „20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” levelemre, ezért nem ismerem el háziorvosomnak őt sem. - Már halott lennék Malajzia segítsége nélkül, többnyire Muszlimok segítettek engem, és Malajzia politikai nyomást tett a magyar rendszere hogy visszalépjenek egy kicsit ebben az üldöztetésben.
Tisztelettel Kimár Norbert

*** Angolul, In English. *** 

Address; Hungary, 3700, Kazincbarcika, Tardonai ut 56.
Birth place, date/ Nationality/ Ethnic; Hungary, Kazincbarcika, 19, May, 1972/ Hungarian,
21 ,January, 2024. Hungary

To: -U.S.A. Embassy in Hungary, -David Pressman Ambassador, FBI, CIA,
Attachment: KimarN_SzIg_ID.jpg; 20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf; KimarN_USemb.JPG; 20240111KimarN.pdf
Subject: A biztonságról-2 / About security-2

Dear Sir, Madam,
I'm sending this email to you in connection to my date of 11-01-2024 email (email attached 20240111KimarN.pdf). Because I had a long argument with the embassy's guards and police about my basic rights to express my opinion on 10-01-2024.
A,
1,) -They told me the embassy can't be on my expressing opinion photos (they told me the same on my date of 15-11-2023 expressing opinions too). - But with this they manipulate my evidence photos about my expressing my opinion. - And the police also said because the embassy can't be on the Internet, but this prevents the publishing of my evidence photos.
My reasoning; - They only showed me an American "No photography"(in English language) sign, and it was on the embassy's fence. But this sign only shows the security rule inside the embassy's area and not in the Hungarian public area. - I told them the embassy is even on the Google (street-view) map, and I saw people who photographed the embassy from the public area, and many photos with this embassy are on the Internet. Therefore I don't understand what is the difference between me and them. - But they couldn't answer me. - Therefore in the end I said to the guards that I want official (written) information about the rules. And the guard said that they will give it to me, and therefore I'd like to ask that information in this email too.
police 2:20; guard 6:10 Youtube link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?
**
2,) They tried to manipulate my rights to freedom of expressing opinion in the public area with this; "Go to the other side of the square, or to the Soviet Memorial". - I still don't know where the free area begins in expressing my opinion in front of the embassy in the public area, therefore I'm asking this information in this email too.
B,
- It's shocking how the arrogance of security created a vacuum, and it forced me to use it lawfully against them anywhere I can, even to wreck it. Years ago in Malaysia the USA embassy guard controlled politely and straight the service and the guest (me) and not the other way, though I only asked visa information. I believe the following are reflecting the persecution and corruption in the NATO, EU countries' securities.

- Sadly I only started to record the last half part of the whole conversation. Youtube link; https://www.youtube.com/watch?
The police was inside the embassy area and I said this to them;
- 1:55, (The origin is in Hungarian); "You (police) are not going to give me back my human rights because you're going to invent something (gaslight), everyone invents something (gaslight) about why it's not possible to give me back my human rights, even though the law would oblige you, just as anybody else. And that's why I'm asking this, so at least how can I express my opinion here against the USA embassy. Here or there? Or where, how far do I have to go from the American Embassy?"
Police answer; "To the other side of the square, minimum."
- 4:13, (The origin is in Hungarian); "But if there is a war then you (police) will take me in, if they give you an order to take (me) in. Then you are following orders and not my human rights. (For that) I have to go to kill that Russian who comes out of the embassy, to talk to me to prove his/her innocence. This is where the crime begins, the even bigger one."
*
Comment: - I swear and I state that I’m mentally healthy person and I never was on any psychiatric examination in Hungary, and doesn’t exist any kind of lawful psychiatric examination result which proves “mental illness” about me, neither on abroad nor in Hungary. -And Dr Tamás Motkó didn’t answer to my “20210711_Kimar-N_Motko-T.pdf” letter, therefore I don't recognize him either as my family doctor. - I'd be dead already without the help of Malaysia, mostly Muslims helped me, and Malaysia put political pressure on the Hungarian system to step back a little in this persecution.
Sincerely: Mr. Norbert Kimár

This protest last time in Budapest especially at USA embassy is just showing/proving me that the authorities are following orders in this persecution and not the human rights law. And that's why they said me "nobody cares that 'stupid' law', and that's why there is no records exist about this kind of human rights crimes.
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Re: Another ethic problem by psychiatric examination,

Post by knorbert »

** 1 ** On 24-01-2024, I expressed my opinion, protested because of the racist communist crime against my life.
0-Family Dr Tamás Motko (the suregery is under renovation)
1-Family Dr Márta Lencár surgery Május 1 út 2.;
2-Kazincbarcika District Prosecution Office, Fő tér 40,;
3-Kazincbarcika District Court Fő tér 41;
And old woman read my placards and she said something like this "Tape is on your mouth because they don't let you to talk" and "FIDESZ did it right"..
4-Kazincbarcika Mayor Office, Fő tér 4.;
5-Employment Department (Jobcenter), Tóth Árpád út 2.;
A man read my placards and he showed me a thumb up.
6-Dr József Tímár Family doctor surgery, Mikszáth Kálmán u. 6,;
7-Kazincbarcika Police Station, Barátság tér 1-3.
* Authorities still didn't do anything to terminate their racial (commie) crime against my life.

** 2 **
I visited the local Jobcenter and they sent me to a man (I never saw him before but there are many staffs) anyway he checked my email address etc personal data and he said the next date of checking into the system will be 26 March. I told him my persecuted situation but he didn't care about it. And he gave me a paper/document which said they checked my activity plane but nothing data about what was checked, maybe they did the same what they failed in November when I walked away because they didn't care about my violated human rights.
- Well my activity plan is to get back my human rights and live with it.

This is why I said in my earlier post too, sadly West will change itself with their corrupt racist commie agent partners when people gonna be angry one day and they do the same what people did in 1956 "They leashed some responsible people/authorities and then hanged them up by leg with money in their mouth".
- All because FIDESZ-KDNP govt regime push its crimes until the wall with using their lawyer trick scams, just as USA embassy guard acted arrogantly and they too will change after that day (as they you can't help, change them, leave it).
***
- And I tweeted my two "January emails to FBI" onto the FBI's X account.
It's unbelievable if a person says to the US embassy guards that he wants to wreck their security after their arrogance pushed him that far, then guards just mockingly smile and recklessly walk away, - but if somebody would say them Allah Akbar then it could be easily even in the headline news. But why should I be surprised because China wrecks USA securities in 24/7 everywhere..

But not just US embassy guards acted that way, I remember for example on the House of Terror Museum guard and FIDESZ headquarters guard, and UK embassy was a special story too.
My experience is the professional guards worked in that Office building where the Swedish and Dutch embassies were too, but those represented the entire office building and without any corrupt/bias emotion tricks.

** 3 **
My enemies don't want to let me go away from them because they can't really export their racist crime with me everywhere, because who would import / participate with them in this crime other than their EU/NATO/Western partners?
**
And their and their friends weakness is if I say for example what I said to the Dutch system already;
- Because your EU/NATO member country's civil and military secret services refuse to care about the victims of communist crimes in Hungary - though your secret services are able to provide security deals for your country's businesses etc inside Hungary, - therefore by my human rights title I request/demand you to give to Malaysia free of charge those of your country's business' markets which cover the Hungarian victims of communist crimes in Hungary, or move your business headquarters to Malaysia..
- That's a shame for their hypocrite racist colony culture lobbies too, even though they may try to make fun of it because they're scared to talk about how it damages their lobbies, etc.

** 4 **
I was thinking again about how the structure of my enemies may works. There must be a demand and supply.
Whose interest demands this persecution on me, and who can supply that "service"?


A,
Demand.
Whose interest needs to demand this persecution and why?
- Who lost business where I live? (Borsodchem is a really huge chemical factory owned by Hungarian commies and then was sold to communist China).
- Who is being attacked strongly via me?
The Hungarian ex-communist agents +families and the Russian secret service and the Russian govt..
- And what is the Russian main export?
Gas, oil etc energy and then comes mineral etc.
No need to tell there is a war now between West and Russia and the energy is controlled by sanctions, and news are about corruptions by sanctions.
- Demand is the corporations, and the big businesses which are the money (hereafter "A").

B,
Supply.
- Who can supply to "A" that demand where the human rights law can be ignored easily without problems?
The politicians (hereafter "B-p") and civil/defence secret services (hereafter "B-s") have impunity, they can ignore and corruptly overrule laws with creating orders even if it's pure corruption.
The "A" (corporations, big businesses, money) goes to the "B-p" (politicians) for new law etc protections, and goes to the "B-s" (secret services) for security, physical protection.
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In my case the "B-p" (politicians) are represented by Dr Hudák Zita, Dr Alakszai Zoltán / Demeter Ervin (he earlier served also as secret service minister too) and they call themselves independent, and the left wing mayor Szitka Péter. And these people are able to sign special decisions with ignoring laws = impunity by crimes.
And "B-s" (secret services) like (NVSZ, NBSZ, etc)
The secret service job allows to watch people, citizens etc anywhere, even to collect data and to write reports etc to anywhere. Secret service is wide and they're everywhere and from low to high class level even with big businesses/ corporations.
And what an interesting is for example Reuters was caught to work for secret services, and journalism is known for investigation and collecting / providing information. And I got the threatening message under Reuters news which was about Ukraine-Russian conflict in Yahoo comments in 2014, and it became real within weeks.

C,
Whose job to use the laws to provide security for citizens?
- Authorities (hereafter "C") have to use and work with the laws to protect people's rights, unless if they were ordered by "B-p" or "B-s" to act differently. Just as when for example simple police won't stop a mafia crime because somebody over their head ordered them to ignore it, - which means something else is also happening there, it can be an investigation, observation etc or corruption (the abnormal long is pure corruption).

- What an interesting is when many years ago the inspectors of national health care service ("C") became cornered by my words (they had nothing left to lie) and then one day the local "C" said me "Go and talk with Hudák Zita ("B-p")..", and the county "C" said me "Go and talk with Demeter Ervin ("B-p" and coincidently he was a former secret service minister "B-s" too)".
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No way "C" (simple authorities) can create a growing big problem what even the "B-s", "B-p" (secret services and politicians) would allow to reach even the embassies (B-p) and the home of prime minister (B-p) too.

And what happens with the victims when demand-supply business is over?
Why would any of them confess and stop their crimes and go to jail instead of using to continue everything anywhere else too?
And "B-p" and "B-s" can rob the victims and let "C" to have some of it also.

*****
And I still believe that Muslims were right in Malaysia with saying me "You did very good to come here", my enemies made a huge mistake when they let me escape to Malaysia in 2015, and also later too when they let me to go back many times. They simply created a reflection to let me know a part of South-east Asian civilisations where they can't play the racist criminal muster, but the racist criminal = they divided themselves with me under Malaysia. I still want to go that way if I gonna have money, and I guess lack of income is a reason why my enemies on their left and right side are glad if I just sit at home and do nothing (they must had backfire a bunch of times from Muslims), and my enemies bosses are confused if I protest front of them.
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