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Inventing the AIDS Virus

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This post is not a full summary of the 724 pages (32.5 MB to download) of the book “Inventing The AIDS Virus” (1996) by Peter Duesberg, and Bryan Ellison [EDIT - new link to PDF]: ... %20(1).pdf

I will only write the most important additional information on AIDS not already in this thread and refer to the author as Duesberg. I’ll add some links that have the benefit of brevity over the book (if you intend to read the book this doesn’t add much).
The real book is “only” the first 467 pages of the PDF, the rest of the book are appendices (that don’t add much), Notes and the Index.

To understand the true nature of AIDS it is helpful to distinguish between the 4 separate groups that have developed AIDS in high numbers: 1) Promiscuous homosexuals; 2) Drug addicts; 3) Haemophiliacs; 4) Africans.
Duesberg states that the cause of AIDS is drug use. He explains that all of the homosexuals were heavy users of (recreational) drugs; he specifically names “nitrite". While Duesberg makes strong arguments that drugs are the culprit, the real cause is more sinister. It is known that as part of the CIAs MKULTRA program experimental drugs were tested on unsuspecting people. I don’t think it’s too farfetched to conclude that the AIDS-victims were intentionally poisoned by putting some chemical weapon into their drugs. Then after they became ill the “AIDS-medicines” finish them off.
Duesberg specifically names that there were some 30 known Immune deficiency diseases, before AIDS was invented, that are since being labelled AIDS. He also specifically names that haemophiliacs suffered from immune deficiencies long before AIDS. The AIDS-syndrome includes the following diseases: brain dementia, diarrhoea, cancers (like Kaposi's sarcoma and cervical cancer), several lymphomas, pneumonia, cytomegalovirus infection, herpes, candidiasis and tuberculosis. Even low T-cell counts without clinical symptoms can be called "AIDS".
Duesberg unfortunately ignores the genocide against Africans under the guise of AIDS. He simply states that other death causes are labelled as AIDS.
Roughly 360,000 HIV positive Haitians have produced only a few hundred AIDS victims.

Duesberg frequently refers to the fact that Human Immunodeficiency Virus (HIV) as the cause of AIDS doesn’t meet the 4 scientific criteria of Koch’s postulates: 1) The microorganism must be found in abundance in all organisms suffering from the disease, but should not be found in healthy organisms; 2) The microorganism must be isolated from a diseased organism and grown in pure culture; 3) The cultured microorganism should cause disease when introduced into a healthy organism; 4) The microorganism must be reisolated from the inoculated, diseased experimental host and identified as being identical to the original specific causative agent.
On Wikipedia you can read that the state propaganda has simply thrown these scientific standards aside with “Koch’s postulates for the 21st century”:'s_postulates
The failure to kill T-cells, even under optimal conditions, is the Achilles' heel of the theory that HIV causes AIDS. The abundance of uninfected T-cells in AIDS patients is possibly the most important evidence against the many false claims for high viral "loads" or "burdens" in AIDS victims.

The mere fact that since the beginning of “AIDS” the epidemic has never really spread beyond the risk groups is evidence that the HIV virus doesn’t cause AIDS. If HIV would have been the cause of AIDS - and is sexually transmittable - in 10 years practically the whole world population would have been infected with HIV (so if you can read this, the official story was a lie).
After the immune system has made antibodies against HIV, it becomes dormant and can only infect the partner in unprotected sex in 1 out of 1000 cases. On the other hand: a pregnant mother has at least a 50% chance of passing HIV to the unborn baby.
There are some 5,000 wives of HIV-positive haemophiliacs in the USA. About 131 of these women have developed AIDS from 1985 to 1992 (2.6%).
Another interesting brain teaser is that the Phase II "double-blind, placebo controlled trial" for AZT was stopped before the planned 6 months duration, because the AZT group was doing so well. How could they know, if the study was blinded?

For me the most interesting part of this book is the description of the conflicting interests in medical “science”. I will ignore most of this here because it isn’t specific for AIDS.
What is very interesting in this context, because it resembles the AIDS hoax perfectly is the Subacute Myelo Optico-Neuropathy (SMON) epidemic that claimed thousands of Japanese victims in the 1950s and 1960s, because they were poisoned with the supposed medicine clioquinol.
In 1970 the neurology professor Tadao Tsubaki made the educated guess that SMON patients were dying because of clioquinol (instead of some virus). By July of 1970 he concluded: 96% of the SMON victims had taken clioquinol before the disease appeared and those with the most severe symptoms had taken the highest doses.
1971 saw only 36 cases, 3 in 1972, and 1 in 1973:

In a Dutch study they found that AIDS-victims couldn’t stay on the drugs because AZT is too toxic. It was a study of 97 AIDS-victims that were followed for a maximum of 147 weeks (median follow-up period 67 weeks); 70 of these victims died (72%).
Because of AZT the haemoglobin levels and leukocyte counts declined significantly. 56 patients (57%) needed one or more blood transfusions just to survive (the first blood transfusion took place at a median of 26 weeks).
97 of the 91 victims were started on full dose AZT. In the first year of poisoning 68% and in the second year 87% of the patients had at least 1 decrease of the dose (the median for the first dose reduction was 24 weeks). In 65 patients (67%) 103 times the poisoning had to be interrupted. In 33 victims (34%) anemia was the reason for the dose reduction.
At the same time of the first dose reduction, this had to be followed by interrupting the poisoning in 40 cases (71% of the victims with a dose reduction). Only 40% of the victims could stay on AZT for 24 week (without interruptions).
Van Leeuwen et al, Failure to maintain high-dose treatment regimens during long-term use of zidovudine … (1990): ... 8-0010.pdf
To this date the Physician's Desk Reference quotes the low toxicity of AZT reported by Broder et al in 1986, although the real toxicity of the drug is one thousand times higher according to more than 6 independent studies.

Duesberg describes only a few individual AIDS-victims. I repeat some of the atrocities about the adopted HIV-positive baby Lindsey that got poisoned with AIDS-medicine.
Before treatment: "She is [a] very bright, smiling and happy girl," noted the doctor. Lindsey was prescribed Septra, to be taken three times each week. Septra can cause "nausea, vomiting, anorexia," and "bone marrow depression," and also includes "rash, fever, [and] leukopenia" among its side effects.

A week later the doctor prescribed AZT (a chemotherapeutic drug designed to kill growing cells). Lindsey began swallowing a total of 120 milligrams of the drug every single day, in addition to her Septra. AZT kills dividing cells anywhere in the body-causing ulcerations and haemorrhaging; damage to hair follicles and skin; killing mitochondria, the energy cells of the brain; wasting away of muscles; and the destruction of the immune system and other blood cells.
The following month, the doctor strangely began praising Lindsey's "improvement." Upon reflection, the Nagels grew puzzled. What "improvement" could the doctor have meant, since Lindsey had suffered no medical problems at all before the treatment began? By the time Lindsey reached her first birthday on October 15, 1991, her adoptive parents began to lose patience. Becoming suspicious of their doctor for not admitting or discussing these “side effects”, Steve and Cheryl took Lindsey to Dr. Margaret Hostetter at the University of Minnesota clinic.

Hostetter immediately ended the Septra prescription, while increasing Lindsey's AZT dosage. At the Nagels' next visit she credited the baby girl's improvement to the AZT. In fact, she discussed plans to increase the AZT yet again. The doctor praised Lindsey's nonexistent progress at each visit. A few weeks later, the doctor had stretched the Nagels' patience by pressuring them to put Lindsey on ddI (a chemotherapy like AZT).
The tension finally erupted a few days after Lindsey's second birthday on October 15, 1992. Steve and Cheryl woke up one night to the tormented screams of their daughter. The muscle pains were unbearable. Leg massages, Tylenol-they used anything that would allow Lindsey to sleep again.
After the Nagels stopped poisoning Lindsey with AZT, she became a "new" child almost overnight. She started sleeping much better, including longer hours ... Her muscle cramps went away. She started eating at least 2-3 times as much every day as she had ever eaten before.

Dr. Hostetter verbally attacked the Nagels, as if they were 5 years old, "She also said that there are foster homes to provide care for children who were in Lindsey's predicament! (Living with parents who wouldn't give their daughter AZT)".
On October 15, 1995, Lindsey celebrated her fifth birthday-with HIV and without AZT -in excellent health. According to public health officials, she should already have died of AIDS because babies with HIV are supposed to survive only about two years.
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Re: Inventing the AIDS Virus

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I have a lot more information on inventing AIDS than "only" the book of Duesberg. Most of it is already on this forum in another thread. Here is additional information to give a full overview on the making of AIDS.
For the very short summary of this thread: AIDS is not caused by AIDS, but by chemical weapons. Azidothymidine (AZT, or Zidovine) was already rejected as chemotherapy for cancer victims in the 1960s because it’s just too toxic, and causes immune deficiency, so they gave it to AIDS victims. Since 1995 AZT wasn’t used as a monotherapy anymore but only as a part in the cocktail ARV, and less and less people were killed by AIDS.

Here’s information on the making of AIDS from the USA: ... AIDS3.html
There are not only thousands of cases of HIV-positives that never develop AIDS, but even of AIDS without HIV:
Leonard Horrowitz has written a book about the invention of AIDS; EMERGING VIRUSES: AIDS & EBOLA (1996): ... 996%29.pdf
Horrowitz argues that Dr. Robert Gallo was making a virus like HIV/AIDS from Fort Detrick for many years (thankfully humans aren’t able to achieve a feat like this). After Dr. Luc Montagnier in France discovered HIV and hoped it could be labelled the cause of AIDS, he sent the virus to Gallo. Gallo used the virus of Montagnier to claim being one of the first to discover it. Horrowitz follows most arguments of Dr. Robert B. Strecker, that the “AIDS virus” is a retrovirus that´s been made (by man) by combining bovine leukaemia virus of cattle and visna virus of sheep. When Horrowitz found reports from Gallo from 1971, 1972 about modifying simian monkey virus by infusing them with cat leukaemia RNA, he thinks this is like making cancers as seen in people with AIDS. Unfortunately Horrowitz misunderstands that HIV is not the cause of AIDS.

In 1970 Dr. MacArthur was supplied with $10 million from the Department of Defense (DoD) to “produce a synthetic biological agent, an agent that does not naturally exist and for which no natural immunity could have been acquired”.
On July 30th, 1977, the United States’ congress annotated Title 50, Chapter 32, Section 1520 for the DoD, that states that chemical and biological agents can be tested on humans.
In 1978 advertisements in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco were issued specifically asking for promiscuous homosexuals. George W. Merck’s pharmaceutical company was involved in this experiment. In 1981 the first stories in the media appeared about AIDS in homosexuals from the New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco areas.

In 1986 and 1987 AZT was approved rapidly, first in Great Britain, and then the USA. The commissions approving AZT had a lot of decision makers with financial ties to Burroughs Wellcome (the manufacturer of AZT, later merged with another company and renamed GlaxoSmithKline). John Lauritsen used the Freedom of Information Act to get information on the phases I en II trials in the USA and concludes from the evaluation of Ellen Cooper that many died in these trials on AZT. Burroughs was fully owned by the Wellcome trust, at that time controlled by Lord Oliver Franks, among others director of the Rockefeller Foundation.

The main scientist that for many years has understood that AIDS is caused by toxic chemicals like AZT is Peter Duesberg, see for example the following article (he has published several books about the AIDS hoax):
The “AZT” medicine for AIDS was already discovered in the 1960s by Jerome Horwitz but rejected as a chemotherapy for cancer because it´s just too toxic.

E. Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al concludes that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, but people die because of AZT and the HIV-tests are not reliable Is a Positive Western Blot Proof ... (1993):
From the Concorde trial evidence it’s clear that HIV-positive victims die (sooner) because of AZT. See Seligmann et al “Concorde: MRC/ANRS...” (1994): ... ncorde.pdf
Much more children born to women poisoned with AZT in pregnancy get severely sick and die than of untreated (HIV-positive) future mothers. Rapid disease progression ... (1999): ... e=abstract

In 1993 came a giant step for mankind in the treatment to AIDS with the results from the Margaret Fischl study comparing AZT and ddC (without placebo); the results were that 42% on AZT, 43% on ddC and 39% on AZT/ddC had progressed to serious illness or death. They claimed these dramatic results as evidence that AZT combined with ddC was superior (than AZT as monotherapy). From 1995 on the cocktail ARV was given to AIDS victims, so unsurprisingly the death rate dropped (ddC is less toxic than AZT).

It must be clear (even if you believe AIDS is caused by HIV) that the stories about AIDS (that I heard in the 1980s and 1990s) were meant to create hysteria. Neville Hodgkinson put together a lot information - AIDS: Scientific or Viral Catastrophe? (2003): ... rticle.pdf
In one study 50 out of 75 children in Uganda in 1972/1973 were HIV-positive (67%); so you’d expect the same percentage of HIV-positive adults (and since 1972/1973 exponentially rising). If this is true and AIDS (and certain death) is the result of HIV, you’d expect humanity to be near extinction by now. Saxinger et al, Evidence for exposure to HTLV-III in Uganda before 197 (1985): ... bodies.pdf

According to 2 European studies from 2011 the most common causes of deaths in HIV-positive victims are not AIDS but cancer and liver failure: ... 20011-5126
In the following study 167 deaths occurred among 9,583 HIV-positive subjects; only 54 of these deaths were related to AIDS (32%). Neuhaus et al, Risk of All-cause Mortality Associated with Non-fatal AIDS and .. Infected with HIV (2011): ... 203665.pdf

Murder by inventing diseases seems to come straight out of the Protocols of the elders of Zion, see protocol 15:
9. Death is the inevitable end for all. It is better to bring that end nearer to those who hinder our affairs than to ourselves, to the founders of this affair. WE EXECUTE MASONS IN SUCH WISE THAT NONE SAVE THE BROTHERHOOD CAN EVER HAVE A SUSPICION OF IT, NOT EVEN THE VICTIMS THEMSELVES OF OUR DEATH SENTENCE, THEY ALL DIE WHEN REQUIRED AS IF FROM A NORMAL KIND OF ILLNESS..... Knowing this, even the brotherhood in its turn dare not protest. By such methods we have plucked out of the midst of MASONRY the very root of protest against our disposition. While preaching liberalism to the GOY we at the same time keep our own people and our agents in a state of unquestioningly submission”.

There are a lot of quotes I have found about the elite wanting to reduce the population as part of an eugenics policy (for example the not richest man in the world Bill Gates, husband of Queen Elizabeth Prince Philip or the Georgia Guidestones).

On 22 September 1991 the following “Cobden clubs” document, with a phone number of Dick Gephardt, was discussed at the Des Moines Iowa 22 September 1991 at the “sustainable development day”; see the following excerpt.
A. The Security Council of the U.N., led by the Anglo-Saxon Major Nation powers, will decree that henceforth, the Security Council will inform all nations that its suffrance on population has ended, that all nations have quotas for REDUCTION on a y early basis, which will be enforced by the Security Council by selective or total embargo of credit, items of trade including food and medicine, or by military force, when required.
This was in preparation of the ECO-92 summit (which led to Agenda 21): ... rge-W-Hunt
Al Gore (before he became Vice President) delivered an energetic speech in which he tried to convince the audience that depopulation can be done: ... rive_f.pdf

Nutritional supplements with multivitamins are not only an effective medicine against AIDS, but are also known to have beneficial effects on other diseases, while multivitamins have no major adverse side effects (although the effects of Vitamin A in HIV-positive pregnant women needs to be studied) and are cheap. A few months ago I bought 360 days worth of multivitamin pills for 8 euro, some 15 cents per week to fight the effects of being radiated in my home (with X-ray or gamma rays).
In the following 2 year study HIV-positive adults (without AIDS) were given multivitamins, selenium or placebo (so they didn’t get the AZT or ARV). With multivitamins only 8% progressed to worse health, while on selenium 12% and placebo 15% deteriorated. Baum et al, Effect of Micronutrient Supplementation … Botswana (2013): ... 664120.pdf

In this study 1078 HIV-positive pregnant women infected with HIV in Tanzania, were given either multivitamins, vitamin A or placebo. Multivitamins resulted in less progression to stage 4 of AIDS or death: multivitamins 67 of 271 (24.7%); multivitamins/vitamin A 70 of 268 (26.1%); vitamin A 79 of 272 (29.0%); placebo 83 of 267 (31.1%). Multivitamins also had positive effects on CD4 and CD8 cell counts (higher); viral loads (lower); oral and gastrointestinal manifestations, dysentery, fatigue, rash, and acute upper respiratory tract infections (reduced). The beneficial effects of multivitamins are still noticeable after 4 years. Fawzi et al, A trial multivitamin … (2004):

In this study the efficacy of micronutrients (including vitamins) was tested in sick AIDS-victims that were poisoned with ARV. The death rate was significantly lower in the micronutrients group 8 (of 242) as compared to the placebo group 15 (of 239). There were less hospital admittances in the micronutrients group 16, while 20 in the placebo group. There were less minor adverse effects in the micronutrients group 64, compared to 73 in the placebo group. Jiamton et al, Micronutrient supplementation … Bangkok (2003): ... e=abstract
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I was trying to find information on how AIDS-whistleblowers’ lives have been destroyed, but couldn’t find much…
Here’s (the beginning of?) a list of AIDS-whistleblowers that faced some problems. I will not describe what their different stances are on the cause of AIDS.

The most interesting story is about Professor Peter H. Duesberg.
In 1991, a government-appointed panel of scientists, decided not to renew Duesberg’s research grants. Before raising questions about the role of HIV in AIDS causation, Duesberg’s grant applications were never denied. Duesberg remains cut off from all NIH funding, and commutes to Germany to conduct his scientific work.
Dr. Kuritzkes demanded that denialists like Peter Duesberg be denied access to students and reported to authorities. WSJ reporter Marilyn Chase warned reporters not to unintentionally "exalt the position of denialists by making them seem like just some sort of independent intellectual contrarian whose views really should be heeded”.
On May 13, 2008, Semmelweis Society International (SSI) presented the Semmelweis "Clean Hands" Award to Professor Peter Duesberg and Investigative Journalist Celia Farber. Farber had interviewed Duesberg first in 1988: ... s_Duesberg
The NIH barred Farber from further contact with their scientists and labelled her a "threat to public health". In May 2008, Richard Jefferys - of the “independent” AIDS Activist group TAG - led the campaign to antagonise the SSI over the Farber/Duesberg awards. Clark Barker was hired by the SSI to investigate if Duesberg and Farber deserved the award. Immediately some former SSI-members told Barker that Duesberg and Farber are liars and responsible for millions of deaths by AIDS in Africa and insisted that he would stop the investigation. When Barker wouldn’t listen; on June 19th they initiated a "spam attack" against him: ... s-egg.html

Bryan J. Ellison in 1994 described how the careers of 5 whistleblowers (including Duesberg) on AIDS were destroyed:
William R. Holub - After publishing an article in 1988 about AIDS, was blacklisted from work in both industrial biotechnology and academia. He lost his home, was forced into bankruptcy, and now supports his wife and children with a job handling toxic chemicals, supplemented by delivering newspapers.
Philip Artz Kees - Charges were brought against him in 1985 before the California Medical Board after he testified about the promiscuous administration of psychotropic drugs like haldol, prolixine and thorazine at Patton State Hospital. His medical license was suspended (revoked in 1992) throughout his 7 years of hearings, which led to bankruptcy.
Edward J. Wawszkiewicz – After publishing questions about the established AIDS thinking, was suddenly labelled "mentally ill" by the University in 1986, forced to stop teaching and with no salary and is now (1994) struggling to stay alive on food stamps.
Nathaniel S. Lehrman – Was critical of the official AIDS story since 1985. He was set up by his colleague, was persecuted for Medicaid fraud that this colleague had committed, lost his medical license. He was convicted in 1991 to 1-3 years in prison, $250,000 in "restitution" and a fine of $100,000 by a Health Department administrative judge.

Dr. Etienne de Harven was censored in France for trying to expose the AIDS fraud: ... -and-aids/

Johan Van Dongen from the Netherlands discovered that Aids and Ebola were manmade. He lost his job at the University of Maastricht and his house: ... al-crimes/
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On July 30th, 1977, the United States Code annotated Title 50, Chapter 32, Section 1520 of the DoD was signed. This approves the testing of chemical weapons on human victims:
Use of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents by Department of Defense; accounting to Congressional committees with respect to experiments and studies; notification of local civilian officials”.

On March 17, 1978 a nice memorandum was signed by Secretary of State Zbigniew Brezinski “NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL MEMORANDUM-46”. This led to recommendations on the US policy towards Black Africa.
Memorandum-46 was (is) a plan to discredit “black” people in general.
Because the state propaganda invented that the cause of HIV was sexual promiscuity and sharing needles for injecting drugs, convincing us that black Africans were often HIV-positive was in reality (also) a strategy to discredit them:

2. Special clandestine operations should be launched by the CIA to generate mistrust and hostility in American and world opinion against joint activity of the two forces, and to cause division among Black African radical national groups and their leaders (...)
4. The FBI should mount surveillance operations against Black African representatives and collect sensitive information on those, especially at the U.N., who oppose U.S. policy toward South Africa. The information should include facts on their links with the leaders of the Black movement in the United States, thus making possible at least partial neutralization of the adverse effects of their activity (...)
(b) to elaborate and bring into effect a special program designed to perpetuate division in the Black movement and neutralize the most active groups of leftist radical organizations representing different social strata of the Black community: to encourage division in Black circles;
(c) to preserve the present climate which inhibits the emergence from within the Black leadership of a person capable of exerting nationwide appeal (...)
(e) to support actions designed to sharpen social stratification in the Black community which would lead to the widening and perpetuation of the gap between successful educated Blacks and the poor, giving rise to growing antagonism between different Black groups and a weakening of the movement as a whole (...)
(g) to take every possible means through the AFL-CIO leaders to counteract the increasing influence of Black labor organizations which function in all major unions and in particular, the National Coalition of Black Trade Union and its leadership including the creation of real preference for adverse and hostile reaction among White trade unionists to demands for improvement of social and economic welfare of the Blacks (...)
This would promote the achievement of a twofold purpose:
first, it would be easier to control the activity of loyal black representatives within existing institution;
second, the idea of an independent black political party now under discussion within black leadership circles would soon lose all support
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Dr. Robert E. Willner was another AIDS-whistleblower. He published a book in 1994 “The Deadly Deception. The Proof That Sex And HIV Absolutely Do Not Cause AIDS”.
Here’s an interview with Willner about HIV/AIDS; he claims that HIV is not the cause of AIDS, AZT causes death and that “In New York and San Francisco only 7% of AIDS victims were HIV positive”:

In 1993 Willner injected himself with HIV+ blood on the telescreen in Spain. He repeated this stunt several times.
On December 7, 1994 Willner injected himself with the blood of a HIV-positive victim to prove his point that HIV is harmless (see the picture). This video itself is pretty good - a group of some 30 people asking questions to Willner about AIDS: ... elf-on-tv/

Willner also favoured alternative treatment for cancer; so they suspended his medical license in 1990. It shouldn’t surprise us that he died on April 15, 1995 of a “heart attack”:
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Here’s a summary of 2 articles by AIDS-whistleblower Papadopulos-Eleopulos with important evidence that HIV isn’t the cause of AIDS.

Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al – “A CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE HIV-T4-CELL-AIDS HYPOTHESIS” (1995):
In this paper Papadopulos-Eleopulos concludes that HIV doesn’t cause AIDS. To make reading a little easier first (this paper is not an easy read) a translation for 2 of the “scientific” words: “HTLV- III” is another name for HIV. “T4 cells” are the T-cells that according to the official story are destroyed by HIV (T8-cells aren’t effected by HIV).
In 1985, Gallo and his colleagues (Gallo et al., 1985) showed that in mitogenically stimulated lymphocyte cultures from AIDS patients or in cultures from healthy donors "infected" with HIV, there is a decrease in the total number of viable cells. However:
(i) the decrease in viable cells begins before a significant increase in reverse transcriptase activity (RT), that is, HIV expression;
(ii) the rate of cell loss remains the same even when the expression of HIV (RT), is maximum

According to Claude Ameisen and André Capron from the Pasteur Institute, not one of the mechanisms "proposed to account for these TH-cell defects
, including: (1) immune suppression, or its opposite, hyperactivation and exhaustion of the TH cells, (2) inhibitory signals mediated by HIV viral or regulatory gene products, (3) autoimmune responses, (4) selective infection and destruction of memory TH cells, (5) syncytia formation between infected and uninfected cells, and (6) inappropriate immune killing of uninfected cells", is satisfactory

At present it is also known that:
(a) for the expression of HIV phenomena (RT, virus-like particles, antigen/antibody reactions), activation (mitogenic stimulation) is a necessary requirement (Klatzmann & Montagnier, 1986; Ameisen & Capron, 1991; Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al., 1992b);
(b) activation (stimulation) is induced by oxidation (Papadopulos-Eleopulos, 1982; Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al., 1992b);
Since both AIDS cultures and AIDS patients are exposed to mitogens (activating agents), all of which are oxidising agents (Papadopulos-Eleopulos, 1988), both apoptosis and the phenomena upon which the presence of HIV is based (viral-like particles, RT, antigen/antibody reactions (WB), "HIV-PCR- hybridisation"), may all be the direct result of oxidative stress and therefore their specificity questionable (Papadopulos-Eleopulos, 1988; Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al., 1992a; Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al., 1992b).
As far back as January 1985 Montagnier wrote, "....replication and cytopathic effect of LAV can only be observed in activated T4 cells

In considering the data from haemophiliacs, a group of British researchers, including the well known retrovirologist Robin Weiss, concluded in 1985: "We have thus been able to compare lymphocyte subset data before and after infection with HTLV- III. It is commonly assumed that the reduction in T-helper- cell numbers is a result of the HTLV-III virus being tropic for T-helper-cells. Our finding in this study that T-helper- cell numbers and the helper/suppressor ratio did not change after infection supports our previous conclusion that the abnormal T-lymphocyte subsets are a result of the intravenous infusion of factor VIII concentrates per se, not HTLV-III infection" (Ludlam et al., 1985)

one must conclude that:
(a) the decrease in the T4 cell numbers and increase in T8 cell numbers in "HIV infected" cultures and individuals is due to agents other than HIV; HIV is neither necessary nor sufficient for the induction of the above phenomenon;
(b) in vivo the above changes may not be due to a selective destruction of T4 cells and increased proliferation of T8 cells, but loss of T4 surface markers and acquisition of T8 surface markers

The interview of Papadopulos-Eleopulos (EPE) by Johnson (CJ) from 1997 is even more extreme:
It comes to 4 conclusion that are bizarre if you’re a believer in the state propaganda on AIDS.
1 - HIV isn’t a virus at all.
Montagnier and Gallo published electron micrographs of a few particles which they claimed are a retrovirus and are HIV. But photographs don’t prove particles are a virus and the existence of HIV was not proven using the method presented at the 1973 meeting.
Montagnier and Gallo did use density gradient banding but for some unknown reason they did not publish any EMs of the material at 1.16 gm/ml which they and everyone afterwards call "pure HIV".
There are a few particles which the researchers claim are retroviral particles. In fact, they claim these are the HIV particles but give no evidence why. The band should contain billions and when you take an electron micrograph they should fill the entire picture. They bear only the vaguest resemblance to retroviral particles.
Let me repeat, there is no question of isolation. Gallo did not isolate a virus. There were no electron microscope pictures of a banded specimen that one would expect to show nothing but retroviral particles.

2 – HIV cannot be a retrovirus because it’s too large and doesn’t have knobs.
Retroviruses are incredibly tiny, almost spherical particles that have an outer envelope covered with knobs and an inner core consisting of some proteins and RNA.
All the AIDS experts agree that the knobs are absolutely essential for the HIV particle to lock on to a cell. As the first step in infecting that cell. So, no locking on, no infection. The experts all claim that the knobs contain a protein called gp120 which is the hook in the knobs that grabs hold of the surface of the cell it’s about to infect.(14) If HIV particles do not have knobs how is HIV able to replicate? And if it can't replicate, HIV is not an infectious particle.
Gallo and all other retrovirologists, as well as Hans Gelderblom who has done most of the electron microscopy studies of HIV, agree that retrovirus particles are almost spherical in shape, have a diameter of 100-120 nanometres and are covered with knobs.(12,13) The particles the two groups claim are HIV are not spherical, no diameter is less than 120nM, in fact many of them have major diameters exceeding twice that permitted for a retrovirus. And none of them appear to have knobs.

3 – The CDC uses a subjective definition for AIDS.
In fact, according to the CDC AIDS definition, you don’t even need to be HIV infected to be diagnosed as AIDS. That’s what I mean about being subjective. It’s like a physician seeing a patient with fever, diarrhoea, vomiting, weakness and shock and then declaring the cause is cholera. Sure it might be cholera but what about the dozens of other germs that cause a similar pattern?

4 – Haempohiliacs can’t be infected with HIV by donor blood.
CJ: I must confess I find it very hard to accept that haemophiliacs have not been infected through contaminated clotting concentrates. And I bet haemophiliacs do too.
EPE: Tell me this. If someone HIV positive is cut and bleeds how long does the blood remain infectious? Outside the body?
CJ: According to what I’ve read, for only a few hours at the most.
EPE: How is factor VIII made? All right I’ll tell you. It comes as a dry, flaky, yellowish powder and by the time it’s used it’s at least a couple of months old. Do you see the problem?
CJ: I do. If it’s dry and that old any HIV in it should be long dead.

I conclude - which isn’t mentioned in the interview with Papadopulos-Eleopulos - that there is not one shred of evidence that HIV-antbodies exist (HIV isn’t even a virus!).
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Reading the paper and interview with Papadopulos-Eleopulos from the 1990s made me realise that I missed an important piece of evidence in this thread – the evidence of the state propaganda that HIV is the cause of AIDS.
According to the “independent” Wikipedia:
On May 4, 1984, Gallo and his collaborators published a series of four papers in the scientific journal Science [14] demonstrating that a retrovirus they had isolated, called HTLV-III in the belief that the virus was related to the leukemia viruses of Gallo's earlier work, was the cause of AIDS.[15]

This is what Papadopulos-Eleopulos had to say about this "evidence":
Although Gallo claims that in the four Science papers (Gallo et al., 1986) he and his colleagues "provided clearcut evidence that the aetiology of AIDS and ARC was the new lymphotropic retrovirus, HTLV-III", no such data were presented. (Papadopulos-Eleopulos et al., 1993b)
To be fair, in his 1984 Science papers Gallo did not make such a direct claim. He said HIV was the probable cause of AIDS. But even this conclusion is questionable. Even if Gallo's evidence was incontrovertible proof he had isolated a retrovirus he only managed to isolate it from 26 out of 72 AIDS patients. That's only 36 percent. And only 88% of 49 AIDS patients had antibodies.
There was no evidence. But two years later, when Gallo was defending the accusation he had used the French virus to discover his version of HIV, he was much more definite about his 1984 papers. He said they provided "clearcut" evidence that HIV is the cause of AIDS. And his opinion was no different in 1993.

Here are the 4 papers from May 4, 1984 of Gallo et al in Science: ... pdf#page=4
The first 3 articles make no claim whatsoever that HIV is the cause of AIDS.
The 4th paper (page 18) “Antibodies Reactive with Human T-Lymphotropic Retroviruses (HTLV-III) in the Serum of Patients with AIDS” M. G. Sarngadharan, Mikulas Popovic, Lilian Bruch, Jörg Schüpbach, Robert C. Gallo is the interesting one and this is THE only (according to Papadopulos-Eleopulos, Duesberg and Nobel laureate Kary Mullis) paper used by the state media as “evidence” that HIV is the cause of AIDS.

Like Papadopulos-Eleopulos has written and said some 20 years ago, these papers do not even claim to be evidence that HIV is the cause of AIDS. The only claim made is that there appears to be a relation between AIDS, homosexuality and HIV (that was named as HTLV-III). These are the most interesting quotes from this article:
Serum samples from 88 percent of patients with AIDS and from 79 percent of homosexual men with signs and symptoms that frequently precede AIDS, but from less than 1 percent of heterosexual subjects, have antibodies reactive against antigens of HTLV-III.
These new isolates are designated HTLV-III and are described in the accompanyning reports (30-32). Here we describe the use of HTLV-III in an immunological screening of serum samples from patients with AIDS and pre-AIDS and from individuals at increased risk for AIDS.
Serum samples were obtained from patients with clinically documented AIDS, Kaposi’s sarcoma, sexual contacts of AIDS patients, intravenous drug abusers, homosexual men, and heterosexual subjects. These sera were tested for their reactivity to HTLV-III by means of the enzyme-linked immunosorbent assay (ELISA) (34).
Because these 17 men had been seeking medical as¬sistance, they are not a representative sample of the homosexual population, and the high incidence of HTLV-III–specific antibodies in their sera may not reflect the true incidence in the homosexual population.
Among the positive serum samples from AIDS patients there appears to be a wide variation in antibody titer to HTLV-III. Generally, the titers in sera from patients with advanced AIDS are significantly lower than those in sera from newly diagnosed pa¬tients and patients with pre-AIDS. This is consistent with the idea that HTLV-III infec¬tion causes an initial lymphoid proliferation but eventually causes death of the target lym¬phocytes (OKT4+) leading to the abnormal T4+/T8+ ratios and loss of helper T-cell functions including antibody production by B cells.
In conclusion, we have shown a high incidence of specific antibodies to HTLV-III in patients with AIDS and pre-AIDS. Among the antibody-positive cases reported here a few are of particular importance with respect to the transmission of the disease.

Please read this report for yourself, I don’t see how anybody with half a brain can call this evidence that HTLV-III (HIV) is the cause of AIDS.
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I’ve found an interesting story about how the AIDS numbers were exaggerated in the 1990s – Christian Fiala “AIDS in Africa: dirty tricks” (1998):
Fiala focusses on the AIDS figures in Uganda and Tanzania to conclude that a heterosexually transmitted AIDS epidemic in Africa can only be regarded as cynical.

In October 1985 in Bangui, Niger the World Health Organisation (WHO) published a definition of AIDS that was exclusively applicable to developing countries. In this definition AIDS is determined - not by testing for HIV, but based on symptoms, like: diarrhoea for more than one month, 10% weight loss, and cough for one month. These symptoms weren’t rare in a country like Uganda with 20 years of systematic destruction behind it. Tuberculosis in Uganda could officially lead to an AIDS diagnosis.
Half of the beds in the internal ward of the Makerere University Clinic in Kampala were occupied by "AIDS patients". From 1986 on Uganda's AIDS figures increased sharply and Uganda was declared the "epicentre of AIDS".
In Tanzania another (narrower) definition was used to diagnose “AIDS”. Then, for reasons unknown, "AIDS cases" in Tanzania were reported that didn’t fulfil the definition; see the following excerpt from a report by the Tanzanian health ministry from August 1990:
"Of the 1,987 new cases registered, only 667 (33.6%) fulfilled the above mentioned criteria. Although 1,320 cases would not strictly qualify to be called AIDS cases, we have taken them as cases assuming that those who reported them just made an omission at the stage of compiling the forms".
In other words 2 third of the newly registered AIDS cases didn’t fulfil the definition for AIDS!

After the WHO definition had been in use for several years, the US Center for Disease Control (CDC) and the Pan-American Health Organisation (PAHO) concluded that the WHO definition of AIDS "may not be adequate for clinical work" because of "the potential inapplicability of that definition". This means that AIDS could also be diagnosed based on other criteria.
Since then, developing countries can choose between the 3 definitions to diagnose AIDS. They can also diagnose AIDS based on the tighter definitions used in the developed world. In international statistics, however, all the AIDS cases are summarised together, although their numbers are based on different definitions thus not comparable.
It must be clear that when a disease is diagnosed based on symptoms that can be caused by (other) diseases - the number of AIDS cases doesn’t mean a thing.

The number of new AIDS cases in Uganda and Tanzania increased every year until 1991. Since then the numbers have been dropping.
All AIDS cases worldwide are registered by the WHO in Geneva. As there is an unknown number that isn’t registered, the WHO multiplies the registered cases to estimate the "actual" figure. This multiplication factor increases year by year.
In 1996, the WHO multiplied the registered AIDS cases in Africa by 12; in 1997 by 17. In the last one and a half years alone (written in 1998), 116,000 new cases of AIDS in Africa have been registered with the WHO. The WHO estimated the new cases in Africa by a whole 5.5 million, thus multiplying the reported cases by 47.
It is also bizarre that the AIDS figures are presented cumulatively. In this way not the number of new cases are seen by the gullible public, but only the total amount. In this way even a small amount of new AIDS cases (which could lead to a dangerous conclusion that the AIDS epidemic is over) leads to an increase in the number of AIDS cases.
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For some reason it’s impossible to find recent interesting information by whistleblowers on the AIDS/HIV fraud.

For more than 20 years the eugenics movement has been pushing for vaccination for AIDS – The global HIV vaccine pipeline.
They still haven’t been able to get an AIDS-vaccine accepted, but now that Donald Trump has become US president, all of those ridiculous regulations (to protect the population...) are expected to be thrown out of the window so we can have progress once more.

The following is from the “Pipeline Report global antiretroviral treatment (ART) guidelines” from July 2016. This also includes information on Tuberculosis.
In 2015 it was recommended to poison all HIV positive people with ART.
According to Polly Clayden, 40% of children on ART don’t get enough, and developing “new antiretroviral drugs and appropriate formulations for children continues to be far too slow”.

They want to harmonise (abolish?) regulations to speed up approval for new ART poisons and HIV vaccines.
They want to expand free condoms and lubricant, counselling, and access to AIDS testing and treatment.
“Education” should promote and facilitate participation in clinical trials.
Manipulation of research to make “evidence that interventions could benefit immunologic non-responders (INRs) even if they fail the cure research context”.

I read in this report:
Currently ongoing and planned cure-related clinical trials are not expected to lead directly to a cure, but rather to define pathways which when further developed and possibly combined may lead to sterilizing or functional cure
I read here that sterilisation of the population is an objective of AIDS-treatment:
I have archived this page here:

The following report by the International Aids Vaccine Initiative (IAVI), is also relevant, because it proves that the focus in HIV-vaccination is on women.
If my conclusion is correct that the objective of HIV-vaccination is depopulation by sterilisation, the focus is obviously on young women and girls...

The IAVI has performed a 2 year, $210 million pilot program launched by: US President’s Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief (PEPFAR), Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the Nike Foundation.
This program focuses on “hot spots” in 10 countries where HIV incidence is highest among girls and young women.

They specifically focus on the girls and young women in east and south Africa, because these are supposedly infected at rates 2 to 5 times higher than boys and men their age, with the non-existent HIV virus.
82% of all adolescents (ages 10-19) with HIV reside in Africa.
Globally, half of adults infected with HIV are women. In Africa women represent 60% of HIV positive victims.
Adolescent girls, should be vaccinated as pre-adolescents before the onset of sexual activity (before they can produce more unwanted children...).
The UNAIDS-Lancet Commission calls for efforts to expand access to HIV/AIDS treatment particularly among women and girls, including development of an AIDS vaccine.

The number of new HIV infections and AIDS-related deaths is declining globally: ... ds-vaccine

According to the state media, in Africa women represent 60% of people living with HIV.
In the Netherlands the official numbers of confirmed HIV positive victims is: 11,616 gay men; 3659 straight men; 3591 women. That’s only 19% women…
This is a total of 18,866 HIV-victims on a Dutch population of 17 million; a little more than 0.1%.
According to the state propaganda another 2800 HIV positive patients are estimated in the Netherlands that have not yet been discovered.

Here are the numbers worldwide: ... tatistics/
At the end of 2015, there is an estimated 36.7 million people worldwide living with HIV/AIDS. Only 60% of HIV victims have already been sentenced to AIDS (the remaining 40%, or over 14 million, have simply been added for political reasons).

The majority of HIV victims are in low- and middle-income countries. Especially in sub-Saharan Africa, with an estimated 25.6 million HIV victims in 2015- that’s 70% of the total.
According to these statistrics there can be only 2 causes for AIDS: malnutrition or chemical weapons.

An estimated 35 million people have died from AIDS (since the beginning of the 1980s), including 1.1 million in 2015…
Since June 2016, 18.2 million HIV victims are poisoned with antiretroviral therapy (ART) in the world, up from 15.8 million in June 2015, 7.5 million in 2010, and less than one million in 2000.

Where’s the evidence for an AIDS “epidemic”?
In none of these official reports on the AIDS “epidemic”; multivitamins, with a proven efficacy, are mentioned...
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Firestarter wrote:It must be clear (even if you believe AIDS is caused by HIV) that the stories about AIDS (that I heard in the 1980s and 1990s) were meant to create hysteria. Neville Hodgkinson put together a lot information - AIDS: Scientific or Viral Catastrophe? (2003): ... rticle.pdf
Reading the story of Hodgkinson made me think back about all the horrible stories by the state propaganda about the expected epidemic caused by AIDS. Of course over time the information about AIDS changed (when lies are exposed the media just invents new stories).

In one study 50 out of 75 children in Uganda in 1972/1973 were HIV-positive (67%); so you’d expect the same percentage of HIV-positive adults (and since 1972/1973 steadily rising). I remember stories that in some African countries more than 50% are HIV-positive. If this were true, you’d expect a lower world population of humans than of rhino’s (an estimated 29,000). Saxinger et al, Evidence for exposure to HTLV-III in Uganda before 1973 (1985): ... bodies.pdf
In 1985 the UK’s Royal College of Nursing predicted that one million people in Britain ‘‘will have AIDS in six years unless the killer disease is checked’’, in 2000 the official number of AIDS deaths totalled 263.
In Africa doctors are allowed to diagnose AIDS by symptoms like fever, cough, diarrhoea, or weight loss — the so-called Bangui clinical case definition. So in Africa diseases like malaria, tuberculosis or dysentery can be conveniently diagnosed as AIDS.
In nature monkeys do not develop AIDS after being infected with HIV; Silvestri et al, Understanding the benign nature of SIV infection in natural hosts (2007): ... 733034.pdf

According to 2 European studies from 2011 the most common causes of deaths in HIV-positive victims are not AIDS but cancer and liver failure (since AZT isn’t a monotherapy anymore but only part of the ART cocktail the death rate has decreased substantially): ... 20011-5126
In the following study 167 deaths occurred among 9,583 HIV-positive subjects; only 54 of these deaths were related to AIDS (32%). Neuhaus et al, Risk of All-cause Mortality Associated with Non-fatal AIDS and Serious Non-AIDS Events among Adults Infected with HIV (2011): ... 203665.pdf
Several studies show that much more children born to mothers poisoned with AZT in pregnancy get severely sick and die than of untreated (HIV-positive) mothers. Rapid disease progression in HIV-1 perinatally infected children born to mothers receiving zidovudinemonotherapy during pregnancy (1999): ... e=abstract

Over the years some HIV-positive victims didn’t take drugs, see the following quotes.
Dr. David Berner (1995)
Reflecting back on the numbers of diseases I treated in the fifties and sixties which now would be grounds for malpractice, I became skeptical about AZT, knowing it to be a cytotoxic agent.
I had the temerity to give [Duesberg] a call. I’ll never forget his initial remark. I told him my plight, and he said, ‘If you take AZT, you’ll be dead.’ I read his work and got introduced to other people who were skeptical about AZT.”
“I decided early on to add some vitamin therapies to my already healthy lifestyle, particularly the anti-oxidants beta carotene, ascorbic acid, and vitamin E. Despite my continuing excellent health for a 69 year old — I do a lot of hiking and mountaineering in the wilderness — I have still been pressured by well-meaning clinicians to start AZT ‘before it’s too late!’ I think it’s very difficult for these people to admit that they’re either partially or completely wrong.
Robert Bryant (1998)
Before Ryan White *) there was me. Same doctors, same hospital… [They told me to] take AZT... I said no to the doctors and I am alive. I have been black-balled by the press which made a hero out of White.
Some people have said that the virus does exist but it’s a harmless one. You’ll test positive for it, but it won’t cause any harm. I’m inclined to believe that. Because I’m not sick. It hasn’t hurt me, and it hasn’t hurt my [HIV+] brothers, and it hasn’t hurt my [HIV+] uncles. And it hasn’t hurt their kids, and it hasn’t hurt their wives.
*) Ryan White was a hemophiliac who died in April of 1990 of unstoppable internal bleeding after taking AZT.

Dr. Scott Gottlieb:
I was prescribed four days of ‘triple therapy’ with the latest protease inhibitors and other antiviral medicines… But those four days left me with a realistic view of what infected patients often face. Between nausea and aching pains in my bones, I felt febrile and weak. I was unable to exercise. After one day, I was no longer well enough to work, to go out with my friends or to eat a full meal without vomiting. While it is true that over time some people are able to tolerate the drugs better than others, for many patients these symptoms never go away. Many doctors and the pharmaceutical industry have failed to convey the human toll that ‘triple therapy’ takes…
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