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The word “county” does not exist in the KJV or any other translations I checked. "County" is not a Biblical concept, so we need to look elsewhere as to how "county" is defined.


Webster’s Dictionary of the English Language, 1828
COUNTY, noun [Latin See Count.]
1. Originally, an earldom; the district or territory of a count or earl. Now, a circuit or particular portion of a state or kingdom, separated from the rest of the territory, for certain purposes in the administration of justice. It is called also a shire. [See Shire.] Each county has its sheriff and its court, with other officers employed in the administration of justice and the execution of the laws. In England there are fifty two counties, and in each is a Lord Lieutenant, who has command of the militia. The several states of America are divided by law into counties, in each of which is a county court of inferior jurisdiction; and in each, the supreme court of the state holds stated sessions.
2. A count; an earl or lord.
Bouvier’s Law Dictionary, 1856
COUNTY.

1. A district into which a state is divided.

2. The United States are generally divided into counties; counties are divided into townships or towns.

3. In Pennsylvania the division of the province into three Counties, viz. Philadelphia, Bucks and Chester, was one of the earliest acts of William Penn, the original proprietary. There is no printed record of this division, or of the original boundaries of these counties. Proud says it was made about the year 1682. Proud's Hist. vol. 1) p. 234 vol. 2, p. 258.

4. In some states, as Illinois; 1 Breese, R. 115; a county is considered as a corporation, in others it is only a quasi corporation. 16 Mass. R. 87; 2 Mass. R. 644 7 Mass. R. 461; 1 Greenl. R. 125; 3 Greenl. R. 131; 9 Greenl. R. 88; 8 John. R. 385; 3 Munf. R. 102. Frequent difficulties arise on the division of a county. On this subject, see 16 Mass. R. 86 6 J. J. Marsh. 147; 4 Halst. R. 357; 5 Watts, R. 87 1 Cowen, R. 550; 6 Cowen, R. 642; Cowen, R. 640; 4 Yeates, R. 399 10 Mass. Rep. 290; 11 Mass. Rep. 339.

5. In the English law this word signifies the same as shire, county being derived from the French and shire from the Saxon. Both these words signify a circuit or portion of the realm, into which the whole land is divided, for the better government thereof, and the more easy administration of justice. There is no part of England that is not within some county, and the shire reve, (sheriff) originally a yearly officer, was the governor of the county. Four of the counties of England, viz. Lancaster, Chester, Durham and Ely, were called counties Palatine, which were jurisdictions of a peculiar nature, and held by, especial charter from the king. See stat. 27 H. VIII. c. 25.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 1st Edition, 1891, 2nd Edition, 1910
COUNTY.
The name given to the principal subdivisions of the kingdom of England and of most of the states of the American Union, denoting a distinct portion of territory organized by itself for political and judicial purposes. The etymology of the word shows it to have been the district anciently governed by a count or earl. In modern use, the word may denote either the territory marked off to form a county, or the citizens resident within such; territory, taken collectively and considered as invested with political rights, or the County regarded as a municipal corporation possessing subordinate governmental powers, or an organized Jural Society invested with
specific rights and duties.
The Century Dictionary, an Encyclopedic Lexicon of the English Language, 1895
County

I. (a) Originally, the domain or territory of a count or earl. (b) Now, a definite division of a country or state for political or administrative purposes.

2. Collectively, the inhabitants of a county.
Ballentine’s Law Dictionary, James A. Ballentine, Third Edition, 1969
County.
A political subdivision of the state: a public or municipal corporation, established for the more convenient administration of government, its powers and importance varying throughout the nation, depending upon whether it or the town has been adopted by statute as the more important arm of government: an agency of the state. 6 Am J2d Attach § 80: a circuit or portion of the state established for the better government thereof. State ex ref Milton v Dickenson. 44 Fla 623, 33 So 514.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th Edition, 1968
COUNTY.

One of the civil divisions of a country for judicial and political purposes. 1 Bla. Comm. 113.
Etymologically, it denotes that portion of the country under the immediate government of a count or earl. 1 Bla. Comm. 116. One of the principal subdivisions of the kingdom of England and of most of the states of the American Union, denoting a distinct portion of territory organized by itself for political and judicial purposes. In modern use, the word may denote either the territory marked off to form a county, or the citizens resident within such territory, taken collectively and considered as invested with political rights, or the county regarded as a municipal corporation possessing subordinate governmental powers, or an organized jural society invested with specific rights and duties. Eagle v. Beard, 33 Ark. 501; Wooster v. Plymouth, 62 N.H. 208; In re Becker, 179 App. Div. 789, 167 N.Y.S. 118, 119; Greb v. King County, 187 Wash. 587, 60 P.2d 690, 692.

In the English law, this word signifies the same as shire, -county being derived from the French, and shire from the Saxon. Both these words signify a circuit or portion of the realm into which the whole land is divided, for the better government thereof and the more easy administration of justice. There is no part of England that is not within some county; and the shirereeve (sheriff) was the governor of the province, under the comes, earl, or count.

Counties are political subdivisions of the state, created to aid in the administration of state law for the purpose of local self-government. Hunt v. Mohave County, 18 Ariz. 480, 162 P. 600, 602; Board of Com'rs of Osborne County v. City of Osborne, 104 Kan. 671, 180 P. 233, 234; Divide
County v. Baird, 55 N.D. 45, 212 N.W. 236, 243, 51 A.L.R. 296; Dolezal v. Bostick, 41 Okl. 743, 139 P. 964, 968; Middlesex County v. City of Waltham, 278 Mass. 514, 180 N.E. 318, 319, and hence not "municipal corporations." Housing Authority of Birmingham Dist. v. Morris, 244 Ala. 557, 14 So.2d 527, 535.

Counties are held in some jurisdictions to be municipal corporations. Mosier v. Cowan, 295 Mich. 27, 294 N.W. 85, 86; Pacific Fruit & Produce Co. v. Oregon Liquor Control. Commission, D.C.Or., 41 F.Supp. 175, 179; and are sometimes said to be involuntary municipal corporations. Perkins v. Board of Com'rs of Cook County, 271 Ill. 449, 111 N.E. 580, 584, Ann.Cas.1917A, 27. Other cases, seeking to distinguish between the two, say that counties are agencies or political subdivisions of the state for governmental pur poses, and not, like municipal corporations, incorporations of the inhabitants of specified regions for purposes of local government. Dillwood v. Riecks, 42 Cal.App. 602, 184 P. 35, 37; Bexar County v. Linden, 110 Tex. 339, 220 S.W. 761.

Counties are also said to be merely quasi corporations. Breathitt County v. Hagins, 183 Ky. 294, 207 S. W. 713, 714; MacKenzie v. Douglas County, 91 Or. 375, 178 P. 350, 352; Jefferson County ex rel. Grauman v. Jefferson County Fiscal Court, 274 Ky. 91, 118 S.W.2d 181, 184.
Black’s Law Dictionary, 5th Edition, 1979
County.

The largest territorial division for local government in state. Its powers and importance vary from state to state. In certain New England states, it exists mainly for judicial administration. In Louisiana, the equivalent unit is called a parish. Counties are held in some jurisdictions to be municipal corporations, and are sometimes said to be involuntary municipal corporations. Other cases, seeking to distinguish between the two, hold that counties are agencies or political subdivisions of the state for governmental purposes, and not, like municipal corporations, incorporations of the inhabitants of specified regions for purposes of local government. Counties are also said to be merely quasi corporations.
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The Lawful Posse Comitatus ( Posse of the County) Black's Law 4th Ed. County or shire
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David wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 7:29 am The Lawful Posse Comitatus ( Posse of the County) Black's Law 4th Ed. County or shire
Black’s Law Dictionary, 4th Edition, 1968
POSSE COMITATUS. Lat. The power or force of the county. The entire population of a county above the age of fifteen, which a sheriff may summon to his assistance in certain cases; as to aid him in keeping the peace, in pursuing and arresting felons, etc. 1 Bl.Comm. 343; Com. v, Martin, 7 Pa.Dist.R. 224.
When you say "Lawful," of whose "law" do you speak?

There are no "lawful" sheriffs. The only Biblical mention of sheriffs were those that fell down and worshipped Nebuchadnezzar's golden image in Babylon. You do know that anything called a "sheriff" today is a CEO for a legal fiction traded as "Office of Sheriff," (or something similar) right?
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I see right now that every word is going to be very important as it should be if Christian Jural Societies are to be formed for God's glory. Thank you for your encouragement.

A jural society is an organized political community and a synonym of 'nation', 'state', and 'county'. It is founded in the General sense on the Law of God from Whom it derives its authority and right to exist in the protection of life, liberty, and property, in the preservation of the Christian way of life.
It is founded in the specific sense, on Scripture, the lex non scripta(common law),maxims of law,and constitutional maxims and exists specifically for the protection and preservation of the Rights of Christians and the advancement of the Crown Rights of King Jesus.

Since the existing governments are de faco and without true Law, once the Jural society is formed it becomes the ultimate civil authority in the county and wields a power superior to that of the county board of supervisors. It is a Christian body, based on God's Law, the lex non scripta(common law), Maxims of Law, and constitutional maxims.
It is composed of three parts;
first, it is a county grand jury in a de jure juristiction separate from county governments;
second, it maintains an Assize court for those who wish to bring their cases before Godly men;
third, it is a civil authority that handles the day-to-day business in a county to provide Lawful protections of life, liberty, and property.
It sends Delegates to the county, state, and national jural society at whose pleasure they sit as agents of the local society. It has discretion to take all necessary Lawful acts to protect the people of the county as the people require.
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once that button has been pushed it can not be changed to my knowledge.
typo jurisdiction

would Constable be a better word?
You sound very knowledgeable and I appreciate all your comments.
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David wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:37 am once that button has been pushed it can not be changed to my knowledge.
When you are logged in, there is a picture of a pencil to the upper right corner of your post. If you click on that you can edit your post.
David wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:37 am would Constable be a better word?
You decide...

No "constables" in the Bible; here is part of definition from Black's 4th:

CONSTABLE. In American law. An officer of a municipal corporation (usually elected) whose duties are similar to those of the sheriff, though his powers are less and his jurisdiction smaller.
David wrote: Sat Oct 02, 2021 2:37 am You sound very knowledgeable and I appreciate all your comments.
The more I know, the less I know. We are in an age of deception, with a real famine of truth. With the Lord's gift of "eyes to see and ears to hear" we can sift out all the lies.
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