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9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 4:28 pm
by Firestarter
This isn’t really a “new” thread, as I had already posted (most of) this in my thread “The totalitarian state” staring on 12 September 2016: ... t=50#p3018
I’ve only made some minor changes to the original posts.

9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:04 pm
by Firestarter
Today I start this “new” thread on the so-called “terror attack” that hit the USA on 11 September 2001.
Reportedly some Muslim “Al-Qaeda” extremists armed with plastic knives hijacked 4 passenger planes, 2 of which crashed into the Twin Towers of the WTC complex in New York City, which caused 3 skyscrapers to fall down like in a controlled demolition (WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7).
One plane crashed into the Pentagon at ground level.
Another plane crashed in Shanksville after the brave passengers on the plane fought back against the terrorists.

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:09 pm
by Firestarter
I still haven’t found any website or story that puts all the pieces together. Here’s a summary of the (in my opinion) most important facts that prove that the terrorist attack on the USA on September 11, 2001 was an inside job, by: Bush, Cheney, the CIA and FBI.

When I came home on September 11, 2001, I automatically turned on my telescreen and couldn’t believe my eyes. I saw an airplane flying towards the Twin towers, then - just BEFORE it hit - explosions came from the building and the airplane didn’t crash onto the building, but disappeared into it, then came a similar scene with the second tower. At that time I thought it would be impossible for anybody with half a brain to believe this bull (this believe still hasn’t left me).
I have searched the internet for hours for the original video I saw on September 11, 2001, that should be easy enough to find, but without success. Here is a collection of videos with or without airplanes that show they are fake.

In all of the videos and photographs there are no debris at all from the planes crashing in the World Trade Center. If they would have crashed against the building flying at a speed of 500 miles an hour, then exploding, then debris of the planes would have been found for miles around (causing damage). Beolw is a famous picture from the second “plane” in the South tower, a fireball but no part of a plane.

On September 11, 2001 I saw a professional looking video of both the first and second airplane flying into the WTC, it is highly improbable that the first plane would have been filmed without advance knowledge.
Standard defence procedures would have made it impossible for a commercial airplane to go off route without being escorted by military planes. Certainly after the first plane hit the North tower, the second airplane would’ve been shot down before impact. The Pentagon even has defence missiles that would have shot any airplane down before coming near (all of these army exercises wouldn’t change these procedures). If a Muslim “terrorist” group would succeed in hijacking 4 planes at once, they would have done something different, like a long-term hostage situation.

George Bush on at least 3 occasions told the press that he saw the first plane hit the WTC “live“ before he entered a classroom in Florida to entertain some children (for the record: the first plane flying in the Twin towers, wasn’t shown live on any TV network), here’s a video of one of these instances:

The following book chapters 3, 4 and 5 (I don’t recommend the rest of the book, unless you’re interested in satanic and freemasonry symbolism) is the best I’ve seen about that the twin towers couldn’t have fallen down the way they did because of (kerosene from) the airplanes:
Just think about it: a plane is designed as light as possible, while the whole WTC complex was designed to resist an airplane crash. That kerosene fuel fire couldn’t destroy the whole building, becomes clear when you find out that kerosene burns at a relatively low temperature (we wouldn’t want the airplane motor to burn mid-air, would we?). There are a few examples of building that were almost completely burned by fire, but remained standing. Also interesting to note that the highly explosive nanothermite was found in the dust from the WTC.
There are even examples of witnesses that unknowingly heard the demolition explosions go off: ... tness.html

The following quotes are from an email of eye witness Neil deGrasse Tyson sent on September 12, 2001:
As more and more and more and more and more emergency vehicles descended on the World Trade Center, I hear a second explosion in WTC 2, then a loud, low-frequency rumble that precipitates the unthinkable -- a collapse of all the floors above the point of explosion. First the top surface, containing the helipad, tips sideways in full view. Then the upper floors fall straight down in a demolition-style implosion, taking all lower floors with it, even those below the point of the explosion.
I decide it's time to get my daughter, who was taken by the parents of a friend of hers to a small office building, six blocks farther from the WTC than my apartment. As I dress for survival: boots, flashlight, wet towels, swimming goggles, bicycle helmet, gloves, I hear another explosion followed by a now all-too familiar rumble that signaled the collapse of WTC 1, the first of the two towers to have been hit. I saw the iconic antenna on this building descend straight down in an implosion twinning the first.

After a lot of witnesses gathered while the twin towers were already burning they decided not to broadcast the plane in WTC-7, but then Larry Silverstein (at the time the owner of the whole WTC complex) ordered to “pull” it.
On September 11, 2002 Larry Silverstein in front of the cameras of PBS admitted he ordered to “pull” the building:
I remember getting a call from department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse.
Of course Silverstein couldn’t have made the decision to demolish WTC-7 if the explosives weren’t placed in the building in advance:
Unfortunately I cannot even remember what ridiculous explanation the state propaganda invented for the implosion of WTC-7…

Here’s a collection of photographs directly after the explosion in the Pentagon, with the conclusion that the damage to the Pentagon came from a missile, no debris of the airplane, while the damage doesn’t fit a large commercial airplane, and there’s even an exit hole of the missile:
Here a photograph that shows that the damage done to the Pentagon is not in accordance with a large Boeing 757 jet, while no airplane parts are anywhere.

The state media broadcast several conversations from the cell phones of unfortunate passengers in the hijacked planes. This is simply impossible: you cannot have a conversation with a regular mobile phone from an airplane that’s flying at a high altitude with a speed of 500 miles per hour: ... ners/16924
Ironically part of the data collected on cell phones is the location. So the telephone companies and the intelligence agencies know from where these calls were made.

Larry Silverstein leased the WTC after George W. Bush became president, and coincidentally insured the WTC for a large amount of money for a terrorist attack only in July 2001; he reportedly made $4,550,000,000 (4.55 billion dollar) for the terrorist attack on the twin towers.
Silverstein and his family were lucky enough to not be in his office in the WTC on that faithful September 11; on a normal day he would’ve been in the Twin towers (with his daughter that worked for him) - EDIT "new" archived link: ... buildings/

Put options give someone the right to sell a stock for the current price (this only makes money when on the short term they decrease in value). There was an enormous peak in put options of American Airline and United Airlines (the companies of the 4 airplanes). Predictable both stocks came tumbling down from 30 to 20 dollars, there was also a suspicious high amount of trade in put options of Morgan Stanley and Merrill Lynch.
From 6th September 2001 till 10th September 2001: United Airlines sold 9000% more put-options, American Airlines 6000% more; Morgan Stanley 2600%; Merrill Lynch 1100%! The investigation about who profited was abruptly stopped. According to Michael C. Ruppert, who died in April 2014, CIA Executive Director “Buzzy” Krongard was directly involved in this scam: ... anks/32323

Martin Bush (brother of George W.) was on the board of directors of the security company Stratasec (previously: Securacom) until 2000. The CEO being Wirt Walker III, that is such a good friend of the Bushes, that some even call him a part of the family (Bush). The company was backed by the Kuwait-American Corp, for years involved with Bush.
Securacom set up a system for the security of the WTC, after the 1993 bombing, and handled the security for the complex at least until 1998. In September 2001 it was responsible for the security at Dulles International Airport (from which both planes that reportedly flew in the WTC departed) and arranged the security for United Airlines (the company of 2 of the 4 planes that were supposedly hijacked) until 1998: ... urity.html

Coincidentally the A.C.E. elevator company had been working in the WTC for 9 months until the day before 9/11. I don’t think that A.C.E. employees placed the explosives in WTC 1, 2 and 7, but it would have been very easy (especially for Marvin Bush that knew about the security of the WTC) to give some secret agents an A.C.E. uniform and security pass and plant the explosives in the WTC.
And while a cousin of the brothers Bush, Jim Pierce had his meeting on the 105th floor of the South tower rescheduled to another location, Marvin Bush - in one of those strange coincidences - was in New York on September 11, 2001.

When I researched John McCain’s involvement with ISIS I found information that confirms that the Osama Bin Laden tapes were faked. By general consensus (that is the consensus in conspiracy circles) after the CIA made the first Osama videos, the army, Pentagon took over the operation.
Amongst others there’s the story of former CIA officer Jeff Stein who detailed in a 2010 article how the CIA filmed a fake Bin Laden video in the run up to the 2003 Iraq invasion (EDIT - "new" link): ... st-videos/

They didn’t even care to use the same actor in all the videos, see the following photos of 4 different Osama Bin Ladens.

A lot of witnesses and whistleblowers of 9/11 have died under mysterious circumstances. This makes me wonder how much more missing pieces there are about this false flag attack:

Michael Glassner of American Israel Public Affairs (AIPAC) arranged the lease of the WTC by Silverstein. Strangely (or maybe not) Michael Glassner is now Donald Trump’s top political planner in the presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton.
Another interesting link in WTC-7 is that the Jacob Rothschild owned Blackstone Group took over the mortgage to WTC-7 from Silverstein. Blackstone was founded in 1985 by Rothschild agents Peter George Peterson and Stephen Schwarzman.
A week before 9/11 the Israeli Zim Shipping Company left the WTC, although it had a contract for the lease until the end of the year. This amounts to an estimated loss of 50,000 dollar:

On 9/11 5 Israelis were making some New Yorkers upset when they were dancing in a happy state of mind when the Twin towers came tumbling down. Later they were arrested in a suspicious looking white van. They worked for the Urban Moving System, which was probably a front for the Israeli secret police Mossad. The White House ordered to stop the investigation against these Mossad agents: ... aelis.html

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:20 pm
by Firestarter
I will try to describe what Al Qaeda was some 15 years ago. When searching the internet with “Al Qaeda financed CIA”, the most interesting results describe that Al Qaeda was financed in the 1980s by the Reagan-Bush administration: ... of-the-CIA
According to stories like this it was not the Taliban that evolved from the Muslim Mujahedeen in Afghanistan, but it was instead Al Qaeda. This is a new conspiracy theory for me: I had already read that the Mujahedeen were supported by the CIA and evolved into the Taliban (instead of Al Qaeda).
In 2005 British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the world that Al Qaeda is not really a terrorist organisation at all, but only a database (the translation of “Al Qaeda”) of Muslim fighters used by the CIA. This basically means that the list the CIA keeps of “terrorists” is per definition Al Qaeda. Two months later Cook suddenly died of a heart attack:

Before 9/11 I had heard about the attacks on the embassies in Tanzania and Kenya in 1998 and the attack on the USS Cole on October 12, 2000 by Al Qaeda. It is highly unlikely that an army ship like the USS Cole would be attacked by a terrorist group, just because it is so difficult (almost impossible).
According to Kevin Ryan security measures were simply bypassed to make the bombing possible, with evidence to suspect that the bombing of the USS Cole was an inside job. The government of Yemen concluded it was an inside job by the USA, with a second bomb going off from inside the ship:

Whenever I hear about some state propaganda, I usually look for the motives to find out what’s really going on.
Already in 1997 UNOCAL had been negotiating with the Taliban about a gas pipeline through Afghanistan, without success. After George W. Bush became president negotiations about the pipeline in Afghanistan were started in February, 2001. These negotiations were abruptly stopped on August 2, 2001 (because of other plans?).
On December 22, 2001 Prime Minister Hamad Karzai was put in charge of Afghanistan, Karzai had been a consultant for UNOCAL, and the deal about the gas pipeline was already in the can on February 8, 2001. While George Bush junior had appointed Richard Armitage of UNOCAL as deputy Secretary of State:
The plans to invade Afghanistan (which was effectually started on October 7, 2001) were already on Bush’s desk on September 9, 2001: ... 9qr-VsS9pg

Another obvious motive for invading Afghanistan is the production of heroin: ... =130#p3656
Long before the Taliban were brought to power in Afghanistan, it was growing opium on a massive scale. From 1747 to 1929, it was ruled by the Barakzai Dynasty, which controlled the opium trade for at least 150 years. When the Taliban were overthrown, they made a member of the clan, Hamid Barakzai, the head of Afghanistan.
President Hamid Karzai had actually collaborated with the Taliban before. Since the mid-1990s, Karzai was a consultant and lobbyist for the US oil company, UNOCAL, and negotiated with the Taliban.
In 2001 an estimated 7606 tons of opium poppy was produced in Afghanistan; in 2007 with 88,000 tons production was almost back at the record level of 90,983 tons in 1999. According to the UNODC, in 2003, opium in Afghanistan generated $1 billion for farmers and $1.3 billion for traffickers.

While there is reason to believe that the decision to attack Afghanistan was only made in August 2001, the plans to attack Iraq were already from the first week that George Bush junior was inaugurated as president. Paul O'Neill was fired by Bush for disagreeing with him. O’Neil made public that already 10 days after his inauguration Bush wanted to get rid of Saddam Hussein:
From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go.
A Pentagon document, dated March 5, 2001, includes plans for Iraqi Oilfield contracts for foreign suitors: ... vade-iraq/
An obvious reason to attack Iraq was the decision of Saddam Hussein to have oil paid in euros, which would undermine the petrodollar: ... am-had-wd/
Another motive, was the big money made after the invasion Iraq. It cannot be surprising that KBR/Halliburton (of Vice-President Dick Cheney) was the biggest profiteer of the invasion in Iraq: ... de-1135905

Secretary of State Donald Rumsfeld has said in an interview in October 2001 that the Pentagon was hit by a “missile”:
Here we’re talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filled with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center.

Tim Roemer, former 9/11 Commissioner, said in 2006 for the cameras of CNN that a “missile” damaged the Pentagon (and then quickly added airplane to hide his slip of the tongue): : ... e_Pentagon
You were — you were worried, especially when I was standing in front of the Pentagon that night, seeing one of our fortresses pried open by a missile, an airplane, thinking about the number of people that probably died on the plane and on the ground...

Below are a number of quotes - before 9/11 - from influential people, organisations that said a catastrophic event – like Pearl Harbor - is needed:
James M. Lindsay, Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and Brookings Institute, in 2000:
But how to raise the political stakes in foreign policy? A renewed threat to American security would clearly do the trick.

Michael Leeden, American Enterprise (AEI), in 1999:
of course, we can always get LUCKY. Stunning events from outside can providentially awaken the enterprise from its growing torpor), and demonstrate the need for reversal (from peace), as the devastating Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor in 1941 so effectively aroused the U.S. from its soothing dreams of permanent neutrality (…) Peace increases our peril ... Peace . . . is a dream . . . and would undermine the power of the state (…) Lying is central to the survival of nations.

Project for a New American Century (PNAC) in 2000:
their ambitious military and foreign policy plans ('process of transformation') will be interminably delayed, "absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor.

Zbignew Brzezinski, Rockefeller agent, Trilateral commission, before 1998:
The pursuit of power is not a goal that commands popular passion, except in conditions of a sudden threat or challenge to the public's sense of domestic well-being (…) that America is too democratic ... this limits the use of America's power, especially its capacity for military intimidation (…) we may find it more difficult to fashion a consensus on foreign policy issues, except in the circumstance of a truly massive and widely perceived direct external threat (…) The public supported America's engagement in World War II largely because of the shock effect of the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor.

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:44 pm
by Firestarter
There must be literally hundreds of facts that prove that the story we’ve been told about 9/11, is a complete lie.

There were a number of people that investigated the crash site, only to find that there was no plane, no bodies, and no luggage. See this quote from police officer Patrick Madigan: “I was amazed because it did not, in any way, shape, or form, look like a plane crash”.
The state propaganda invented that the plane had been “swallowed” by the ground (just like the planes that were swallowed by the Twin towers?). This would explain that no planes, bodies of passengers or luggage were seen at the pit? There wasn’t even jet fuel in the soil. Later they did find plane debris miles away from the crash. And 12 days later 600 pounds of human tissue had reportedly been found (of the total of 44 people on the plane): ... hout-plane
Just look at one of the photographs, with people searching for debris of the plane without succes. Image
This spot was chosen deliberately, here’s a photograph from 1994 that shows that the remains of an old mine could give the impression of a plane crash.

Jamie McIntyre of CNN reported that no part of a plane could be seen at the Pentagon:
From my close-up inspection, there's no evidence of a plane having crashed anywhere near the Pentagon.
The only site, is the actual side of the building that's crashed in. And as I said, the only pieces left that you can see are small enough that you pick up in your hand. There are no large tail sections, wing sections, fuselage, nothing like that anywhere around which would indicate that the entire plane crashed into the side of the Pentagon and then caused the side to collapse.
Obviously McIntyre had violated CNN’s policy (to report only lies). How did CNN correct this? They never aired the show again and then released the following “rush transcript” of Jamie McIntyre reporting on September 11, 2001:
I could see parts of the airplane that crashed into the building, very small pieces of the plane on the heliport outside the building. The biggest piece I saw was about three feet long, it was silver and had been painted green and red, but I could not see any identifying markings on the plane. I also saw a large piece of shattered glass. It appeared to be a cockpit windshield or other window from the plane.

The Bureau of Transportation Statistics (BTS) keeps detailed records of (amongst others) take off times. For both the planes of American Airlines, that were reportedly hijacked and crashed (AA11/WTC-1 and AA77/Pentagon), the BTS reported no take off times (so the planes didn’t leave the airport until later). According to earlier information (that was later altered) from BTS these planes weren’t even scheduled to fly on September 11, 2001:
This leaves the 2 airplanes of United Airlines. According to information from Air Traffic Control (ATC) - UA93 was still flying after it had supposedly crashed in Shanksville: ... borne.html
This leaves 1 plane. According to information of the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) UA175 was still flying 20 minutes after it - according to the official story - had crashed in WTC-2: ... CRASH.html
So 2 planes didn’t even leave the airport, while the 2 other planes were still flying when according to the official story they had already crashed.

There is not only evidence that the Bush-Cheney administration had planned to invade Afghanistan and Iraq before September 11, 2001 but also that the Patriot act was already designed and written beforehand. President Bush presented Patriot Act so fast after 11 September 2001, that it must have been designed before.
The (first) USA Patriot Act that was signed on October 26, 2001, was 342 pages, and you can read the full document here:
The implementation of the Patriot act had already started on 13 February 2001 with the bill to implement NSDP-1 (passed by congress March 13). The objective of NSDP-1 is instigating the National Security Council (NSC), which will provide for: “National security includes the defense of the United States of America, protection of our constitutional system of government, and the advancement of United States interests around the globe”. Here you can read the NSDP-1:

Jane Standley of the BBC reported that WTC-7 (the Salomon Brothers building), confirmed by BBC News 24, had collapsed, 24 minutes before it happened (ironically the WTC-7 building is seen in the background still standing: ... ideos.html
Here’s the video:
The BBC apologised that they had obviously made a mistake. Then WCBS announced that WTC building 7 might have collapsed and showed the collapse”live”: ... on-AcEsTFY

The live footage of the collapse of WTC-7 looks fake.
The brown building on the left also , look the shadow (computer animated, with a low resolution).
Now carefully watch the top of the building: first something on the left falls down, then something black moves to the right, and decides to go a small part back to the left.
Then while the building falls down, the front right of the building remains vertical while the left side expands to the left (impossible because according to the right side it falls straight down). Here it is.

The following photograph shows an in perspective 13 feet (4 meters) tall giant. The windows aren’t the right proportions either.

For added drama videos of jumpers were shown. The following still shows a giant jumper of 21 feet (6.4 meter).

The North face of the building is… in the sunlight.

There were reported 19 Arab terrorists that hijacked the planes using plastic knives, conveniently the passport of one of them was found near the WTC complex, but some of them turned out to be alive after 9/11.
No problem of course for the state propaganda that simply changed some names on the list: ... rd-planes/

If you enjoy sarcasm the following video by James Corbett is a must see:

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 2:58 pm
by Firestarter
Of course computer animations can also die. They put some records in some databases and use the computer to generate some nice pictures. Here are some photographs where (at least) 50% of the photographs are fake (with added family members or friends). If 50% is fake, all 100% must be fake, while there can only be one reason why they would create these photos – these people didn’t exist: ... start=1260
I’ve chosen not to put the entire picture here; for a taster here is 2 times the same picture of Kevin Cleary, with and without computer generated baby.

Obviously they didn’t manipulate the Social Security Death Index (SSDI) database correctly. The Social Security Number, on which this is based, isn’t restricted to “social security”, but is a registration number for every US citizen (needed for a bank account, driver’s license, and used as a registration number for tax). The SSDI is a reliable database that registers the death of all US citizens.
Vincent Sammartino did a cross check of the victims on the 4 planes - that supposedly crashed on 9/11 - and found more holes in the official story. Of the passengers and crew of Flight 11, 77, 175, and 93, respectively only 22%, 22%, 28%, and 13% are in the SSDI. Of the 266 “people” that died on these jets, according to the SSDI only 11 relatives applied for compensation (with an average pay-out of about $1.8 million).
According to the 9/11 Victims Compensation Final Report for Flight 11, 77, 175, and 93 respectively 65, 33, 25 and 46 people, a total of 169 (63.5%) accepted the awarded compensation, which according to this final report equals 98% that accepted the fund money. So a lot of (families of) people that didn’t die according to the SSDI successfully applied for compensation:

Brian S. Stavely concluded that out of the almost 3000 people, who were said to have been killed on 9/11, only 466 appear in the SSDI. Out of those 466 only 220 had death certificates issued. I consider 220 to 466 as a reasonable estimate of the death toll on September 11, 2001: ... l-time-911
Then there’s “exif data” on some pictures. See the obituary of 9/11 victim Mark Bingham that was added on 8-30-2001 (before 9/11).... It says he was killed in the terrorist attacks of 9/11. After this computer animation was born on August 30, it became a real American hero, when on 9/11 it called his “mother” to speak the immortal words “let’s roll”, when the brave computer animations would fight against the dangerous Muslim terrorists that (not) hijacked the plane. Bingham is NOT in either the SSDI or the Victims Compensation fund.

According to the following story floors 92 till 105 in the North Tower that didn’t physically exist – officially occupied by Cantor Fitzgerald and Marsh Mclennan: ... a6b6c8&amp
This is an extreme conclusion. I don't think that the following photo from the second half of the 1970s can be explained in any other way. This means that the "terrorist attack" to destroy the buildings had been planned even before the WTC complex was built.
See the picture of the Twin Towers in the sun which suggests that these floors are missing.

After the initial explosions from the Twin Towers there was a lot of dark grey smoke hanging around the Twin towers - EDIT - deleted "fake" disinformation on "piping system" coming from

At the end of 2002, after much of the evidence had already been destroyed, Bush set up the 9/11 commission to “investigate” what the intelligence agencies should have done to prevent Al Qaeda from attacking the USA (this could only lead to something like the Patriot Act). George W. Bush had the great idea to appoint none other than Rockefeller’s favourite war criminal Henry Kissinger to head this investigation. Kissinger was awarded the Nobel Prize for peace in 1973 for his great humanitarian work in South-East Asia (like bombing Vietnam and Cambodia). Kissinger inc. is connected to Blackstone. After some doubts about his connections to the oil industry, they appointed another great patriot, Thomas Kean, to lead the investigation.
The (only?) evidence that Al Qaeda was behind 9/11 came from the confessions of captured Muslim terrorists, that were so badly tortured (including waterboarding) by the CIA that they would have confessed that the prophet Mohammed was behind the attacks. The 9/11 commission didn’t even interrogate these “terrorists”, but only read the interrogation reports. Even members of the 9/11 commission raised doubts about their work: ... ments.html
The 9/11 commission destroyed all the evidence on the put options trading by Deutsche Bank, because:
A single U.S.-based institutional investor with no conceivable ties to al Qaeda purchased 95 percent of the UAL puts on September 6 as part of a trading strategy that also included buying 115,000 shares of American on September 10
The 9/11 commission simply ignored the collapse of WTC-7 (because Al Qaeda couldn’t have placed the explosives in the building?).

The anthrax attacks started on 18 September, 2001, but were first reported on October 3, and then 2 days later Robert Stevens, reporter at the Sun paper, was the first death because of anthrax. The whole hysteria for a total of 5 people dying because of anthrax until the end of 2001 (including a 94 years old woman) was completely justified, especially since more died because of the vaccine (not even considering all the deaths in the “War on terror”).
In October 2001 Bush and Cheney accuse Al Qaeda, Osama Bin Laden for the anthrax attacks. On October 18, 2001 John McCain implicates that the anthrax comes from Iraq. On October 26, Peter Jennings on ABC News’s World News Tonight calls Saddam Hussein responsible for the anthrax attacks. The FBI quickly destroyed the first Ames strain of anthrax, after it was discovered that it originated from a dead cow in Texas, used in US military research.
If we weren’t surprised by all of the physical laws on 9/11 that were mysteriously broken, it was really not suspicious that those senators against the Patriot Act, Tom Daschle and Patrick Leahy, were intimidated by anthrax letters: ... atriot_act

When it was clear that this anthrax was produced in the USA, on October 27 the Washington Post reported that a lone extremist operating from the USA was probably behind the anthrax attacks. From the summer of 2002 on, the FBI tried to frame Steven Hatfill that worked at USAMRIID (that had passed a lie detector test in January 2002); on June 25 several newspapers were tipped and report that Hatfill’s house has been searched in connection to the anthrax attacks, while he’s constantly under surveillance and harassed by the FBI. But Hatfill comes back fighting - on August 11, 2002 he defends himself in a public speech and Washington Post interview. On June 27, 2008, Hatfill accepts a $5.82 million settlement from the government for his legal claim that the Justice Department and FBI ruined his career and invaded his privacy.

On April 2007, 2007, the respected researcher at USAMRIID Bruce Ivins is subpoenaed to testify (with the promise that he isn’t a suspect) and becomes the fall guy. From November 1, 2007 on Ivins is openly followed (and harassed) by the FBI, to intimidate him and his family.
Since 2000 Ivins was stupid enough to seek help for psychiatric problems. In 2008 Ivins was attending group therapy sessions led by “social worker” Jean Duley. On July 9, 2008, Duley seeks a restraining order against him, because Ivins had told her he has “a very detailed plan to kill his co-workers” at USAMRIID, that Ivins had a history of making homicidal threats, had threatened her, will soon be charged with 5 murders (the anthrax deaths in 2001) and Ivins’ psychiatrist had “called him homicidal, sociopathic with clear intentions”. It is clear that Duley has been talking with the FBI (how could she know he would be charged or about his psychiatrist?). A month later Duley no longer works as a “social worker” (she was probably hired to frame Ivins). Nobody from the group sessions has confirmed that Ivins had homicidal plans:

From July 10 till July 23, Ivins is locked up in a psychiatric hospital. On July 29, 2008 Ivins is conveniently suicided. Three days later the Los Angeles Times reports that Ivins died just before he would be charged for the 2001 anthrax attacks. The story is that Ivins had swallowed prescription Tylenol mixed with codeine on July 27 and was hospitalised with an overdose and died 2 days later in the hospital. The Frederick Police Department lieutenant determined that “an autopsy wouldn’t be necessary”. Why would a man like Ivins, that would know how to kill himself, commit suicide with poison that would only cause death 2 days later? Ivins was under 24 hours surveillance (harassment) by the FBI, so how could he commit suicide unnoticed?

On August 6, 2008 the FBI presents their case that Bruce Edwards Ivins did all of the anthrax attacks in 2001 by himself, without being suspected for years and keeping a job at the same time with a high clearance, where he hid being a terrorist and made the anthrax powder – case closed. It appears that his emails are the “hardest” evidence. Ivins had even passed a lie detector test in December 2001 about the anthrax attacks. Several colleagues of Ivins said that Ivins was not capable of these anthrax attacks. Anybody with half a brain can see that it would have been impossible for Ivins to perform these anthrax attacks all by himself: ... mmary.html

BioPort holds the monopoly on vaccines on anthrax in the USA. The Carlyle group, linked to George H.W. "poppy" Bush (whose father, Prescott helped Rockefeller finance Adolf Hitler), owns part of BioPort. BioPort is also connected to the Jacob Rothschild owned Blackstone Group, an investment bank that had the mortgage on WTC-7 (and effectively owns Carlyle). Blackstone was founded in 1985 by Rothschild agents Peter George Peterson and Stephen Schwarzman. Blackstone is also connected to the Kissinger inc.:

Then there’s Bayer that holds the monopoly in the USA for the antibiotics Cipro for anthrax. Bayer was part of the notorious IG Farben - the producer of Zyklon B that was used by the Nazis and owner of the largest Nazi concentration camp Auschwitz. IG Farben was affiliated to Rockefeller’s National City Bank and Standard Oil. The ties between Rockefeller and the IG Farben were never severed: ... nthrax.htm
Battelle Memorial Institute (BMI) has a partnership with BioPort. During the presidency of Bill Clinton BMI was contracted by the US government to develop a more deadly strain of anthrax (from their laboratories in West Jefferson, Ohio). BMI had gotten the Ames strain of anthrax used in the attacks from USAMRIID. BMI hired William Patrick III for a risk-assessment about dissemination of anthrax powder by mail. The FBI had investigated BMI in December 2001, after the company was discussed in several articles by the Washington Post: ... otive.html

From 2000 till 2002 Bruce Ivins had been working for BioPort, to solve problems with their vaccine. According to a 2004 book by Gary Matsumuto (before Ivins was named as a suspect) Bruce Ivins knew that the experimental vaccine given to Gulf War US soldiers since 1991 could cause “toxic, allergic, ulcerative, or lethal reactions". Ivins could have been targeted and suicided because he knew too much about the experiments on US soldiers in the Gulf War. Maybe Bruce Ivins even suspected that Battelle Memorial Institute had motive, expertise, possessed the Ames strain, and had planned the anthrax attacks in advance of 9/11 (there were more bio weapon experts that suddenly died): ... ax-cia.htm
For the short summary of the suspects see the picture.

Here’s an interesting video of a (real) plane crash (on the ground), this is what it would have looked like at the Pentagon and Shanksville:
Here are some pictures of the damage to the wing of an airplane after it hits a big bird (the wing of a plane couldn’t cut through a building like a knife through butter).

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:07 pm
by Firestarter
Firestarter wrote:The (first) USA Patriot Act that was signed on October 26, 2001, was 342 pages, and you can read the full document here:
Starting on September 13, 2001 a number of bills that deal with “national security” were proposed to the US congress.
The first was the Combating Terrorism Act of 2001 on September 13 (5 pages).The first draft of the Anti-Terrorism Act of 2001 was presented on September 19 (8 and 25 pages).Then Public Safety and Cyber Security Enhancement Act was introduced on September 20 (9 pages).The Intelligence to Prevent Terrorism Act was introduced on September 28 (19 pages)
The Financial Anti-Terrorism Act was submitted on October 3 (126 pages).
The first version of the Patriot Act was introduced into the House on October 2, 2001 (245 pages). The final version of the USA Patriot Act (342 pages) together with the Financial Anti-Terrorism Act (132 pages) were introduced to congress on October 23. A motion was made to suspend the rules, and the bill was accepted by congress by a vote of 357-66 on October 24, 2001.

I don’t think it would’ve been possible to propose the Financial Anti-Terrorism Act and Patriot Act without advance preparation within 3 weeks after September 11, 2001.
The introduction of the Patriot Act bill, and passing it a day later is already evidence that congressmen couldn’t read it. Congressman Ron Paul made clear that he tried to read it before voting against it, but couldn’t get a copy because “the bill wasn't printed before the vote” and “They played all kinds of games, kept the House in session all night”:

Not only did they tell us that the jet fuel was hot enough to melt the steel in the Twin Towers (and even WTC-7 from a distance), but it was also claimed that Ground zero burned for 3 months and even there metal supposedly melted for a long time after 9/11. I’ve seen some fake computer animation of molten steel running from the burning Twin Towers and hate to admit it, but it looks pretty convincing:

The following site does a good job at debunking the molten steel videos, pictures, and molten steel after 9/11 at Ground zero. The steel flowing down the building isn’t possible because: it flows from a window and the aluminium cladding displays no signs of melting and the flow disappears prior to destruction of WTC 2 as the video jumps: ... &Itemid=60

According to the following picture Ground zero was hot on September 16, but on September 23 almost no heat remained.

Look at the following picture of firemen working in the (damp) smoke of boiling water. They must wear some wonderful magical suits that protect them from being boiled themselves.

Here’s a construction machine that picks up red hot steel like it’s nothing. The hydraulic system couldn't possibly withstand even a fraction of the temperature that is associated with red hot steel (845 Celsius or higher).

Here are 3 pictures of the collapse of the Twin towers. These should prove that after the top of the buildings collapsed the lower floors were crushed down by the top floors. If this shows anything else than that it’s a fake computer animation, it would be that the top of the towers would fall sideways, next to WTC-1 and WTC-2.

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:11 pm
by Firestarter
A lot of people will simply not believe that the government is a terrorist organisation, and will bypass all the evidence that 9/11 was an inside job. Maybe some of them can be convinced by Operation Northwoods.
Northwoods consisted of terrorist attack executed by the US government to frame Cuba (a false flag attack avant la lettre). It was presented in 1962 by the Joint Chief of Staff to President John F. Kennedy, but JFK didn’t want to play along. The objective was to change the public opinion for an attack on Cuba. Here´s the original document:

The most interesting parts - in this context - are the proposals to shoot down and/or hijack passenger planes (pages 10 and 11):
7. Hijacking attempts against civil air and surface craft should appear to continue as harassing measures condoned by the government of Cuba. Concurrently, genuine defection of Cuban civil and military air and surface craft should be encouraged.
8. It is possible to create an incident which will demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civil airliner enroute from the United States to Jamaica, Guatemala, Panama or Venezuela. The destination would be chosen only to cause the flight plan route to cross Cuba. The passengers could be a group of college students off on a holiday or any grouping of persons with a common interest to support chartering a non-scheduled flight.
a. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone.
b. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida. From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will being transmitting on the international distress frequency a "MAY DAY" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident.
9. It Is possible to create an incident which will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack.
a. Approximately 4 or 5 F-101 aircraft will be dispatched in trail from Homestead AFB, Florida, to the vicinity of Cuba. Their mission will be to reverse course and simulate fakir aircraft for an air defense exercise in southern Florida. These aircraft would conduct variations of these flights at frequent Intervals. Crews would be briefed to remain at least 12 miles off the Cuban coast; however, they would be required to carry live ammunition in the event that hostile actions were taken by the Cuban MIGs.
b. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly tail-end Charley at considerable interval between aircraft. While near the Cuban Island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. No other calls would be made. The pilot would then fly directly west at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who had performed the mission under an alias, would resume his proper identity and return to his normal place of business. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared.
c. At precisely the same time that the aircraft was presumably shot down a submarine or small surface craft would disburse F-101 parts, parachute, etc., at approximately 15 to 20 miles off the Cuban coast and depart. The pilots returning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found.

I watched 2 Youtube live broadcast of September 11, 2001. This doesn’t include the video I saw I saw myself on 9/11 of both planes crashing in the Twin Towers and both towers collapsing from a low angle. I found some surprises.

First the “live” show on CNN (started just after the first plane hit the North Tower).
From 6:38 – 6:47 an eyewitness tells that the explosion came from inside the building (it wasn’t hit by a plane). From then on we only hear eyewitnesses over the phone.
They do show the second plane flying “live” at 15:12, then to another view at 15:14 (courtesy WABC), and then the explosion at 15:16, they show this again from another view, camera some time later, but not from an angle that shows the plane disappearing, crashing into the building.
They don’t show the South tower collapsing live at 1:10:09, but only 6 1/2 minutes later. When they show the first collapse (the South tower) 1:16:45 -1:17:00 it still doesn’t show the top of the building (falling sideways), but the whole tower is hidden by what looks like white smoke (the North tower collapse is not shown in this video). It appears that the fire in the Pentagon was used as a diversion, to not show the collapse “live”.
Where you’d expect the (incredibly hot) fire fuelled by kerosene to spread in an hour, there is a lot of black smoke, but almost no flames. See the picture.

Here’s the “live” show on FOX News (started just after the first plane hit the North Tower).
This doesn’t show the second plane hitting the South tower live but only an explosion at 10:30 (so FOX started their broadcast almost 5 minutes before CNN?). At 16:55 – 17:05 (5 minutes later) this plane is “shown” (impossible to get a good look at precisely 16:55) hitting the South tower from an angle that obscures the crash of the plane against, into the building.
Also the collapse of the South tower at 1:07:30 (so now they´re only 2 ½ minutes before CNN) isn’t shown live, but only 10 minutes later 1:17:30 a lot of smoke is seen, but nothing of the building. At 1:35:54 there is a lot of white smoke, that is supposedly the collapse of the North tower “live”, only at 1:39:18 this is shown in a better view, but the top of the building is completely obscured from view by white smoke.

From 1:31:30 – 1:32:00 terrorism expert Skip Brandon already tells that the Al Qaeda of Osama Bin Laden is probably responsible for this terrorist attack.
Also here we can see a lot of black smoke but (almost) no flames, not even talking about the fire not spreading, see the picture.

The following site was made by somebody with knowledge of Computer Generated Images (CGI). He makes it look easy to create the special effects of the planes in the WTC: ... sites.html
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The following report is a bit longish (54 pages), but it does make it clear that no planes flew in the WTC on 9/11 - Morgan Reynolds, Plane Deceit at the World Trade Center (2008): https://morganreynolds.files.wordpress. ... vol_iv.pdf

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:17 pm
by Firestarter
A demolition expert from the Netherlands, Danny Jowenko, didn’t get much attention from the mainstream media, but has achieved some notoriety in 9/11 conspiracy circles. Jowenko was shown a video of the demolition of WTC-7, to tell the obvious conclusion that this was a controlled demolition done by team of experts. When he’s told that this demolition occurred on September 11, 2001 he asks with undisguised amazement on the same day (op dezelfde dag)? After that he tells some more obvious things that on the surface aren’t really that great, but he makes a sound impression. I wouldn’t post about Jowenko if I hadn’t learned that he died in a suspicious car crash in July 2011.
Here’s the story on the death of Jowenko including the video in 3 parts of his conclusion that WTC-7 was brought down in a controlled demolition (the video is in Dutch with English subtitles): ... -accident/

The video of Jowenko made me think again about the asbestos in the WTC-7. Jowenko tells that because of the asbestos a demolition would be illegal. The health of some 400,000 people has been damaged by the asbestos when WTC-1, WTC-2 and WTC-7 fell down. I have seen some photos of people working on Ground Zero wearing no protective gear. Besides asbestos also other chemicals in the dust were hazardous to the health. According to Scientific American the collapsed towers contained heavy metals like lead and PCBs. Symptoms of 9/11 conditions include: chronic cough, shortness of breath, sinus congestion and cancer. Earlier this year there were 72,000 people enrolled in the World Trade Center Health Program (WTCHP).

The workers cleaning up Ground Zero were dropping dead and becoming severely ill already in 2003. At first the government denied that these people got ill and were dying because of exposure to dangerous toxics. Only after people started speaking out in the press, this was acknowledged: ... icans.html
Of the samples taken by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) 25% contained levels above the 1% “safe” threshold. Already 3 days after 9/11, the head of the EPA, Christine Todd Whitman, lied: "The good news continues to be that air samples we have taken have all been at levels that cause us no concern". On Sept. 18, 2001, Whitman reassured residents that the air "is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink". According to a report by the EPA’s Office of the Inspector General of August 21, 2003, the White House Council on Environmental Quality reviewed and even changed EPA statements to make the public health risks sound less alarming. The report cites “reopening Wall Street” and “national security” as reasons for the spin. Even Mayor Rudy Giuliani stood next to Christie Whitman to announce that the air was safe. A year after 9/11 half of the program’s patients — some 7,000 firemen, police officers and volunteers — were still sick. The EPA only tested and cleaned individual apartments on request, and “forgot” central air systems and common areas: ... as-report/

In April 2008 a panel of judges on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 2nd Circuit ruled that Whitman cannot be held liable for knowingly misinforming the public. Earlier this year Whitman finally apologised for the misinformation. Since September 2001 at least 1,000 people have died because of the exposure to debris from the wreckage of the WTC. More than 37,000 are officially recognised as sick. In 2011 the federal WTCHP was established, since then a total of 1,140 registered members have died. It has 75,000 registered members, 87% of whom worked on rescue, recovery and clean-up (the rest are New York residents or workers). To keep the truth covered the WTCHP doesn’t even record causes of death: ... death-toll
In 2013 some 1,140 new cancer cases were reported of Ground Zero rescuers and responders; this toll skyrocketed to more than 2,500 in 2014: ... rocketing/

Interestingly ‘lucky’ Larry Silverstein told that the plans for the new WTC-7 were already made in April 2000. Because the asbestos would have to be removed before a demolition would be allowed this would be expensive (for the whole WTC complex an estimated 200 million dollars): ... ks/214821/
Here’s the video where Silverstein tells about the plans from April 2000 (he doesn’t mention about plans for the removal of asbestos):
The complete video from which this was taken is also worthwhile (from 59:00 – 59:13 he tells about the plans from April 2000). Silverstein tells amongst others how he beat the insurance companies (with the help of his good friend that became governor):

I’ve found a nice video in which 2 explosions - less than a second apart – can be heard directly before the collapse of WTC-7 (including witnesses that describe the sound as “ba-boom”). Here it is (from 1:08 – 1:58 the explosions can be heard, and witnesses confirm explosions). From 5:44 – 5:54 an official of the fire department tells that they knew that the building (WTC-7) would come down (or would be taken down):

Here’s a video of lying fireman Jay Jonas telling an amazing story. “We” were in WTC-1 in “this little pocket in this stairway between the fourth and the second floor” when the building collapsed. He also tells that he will never forget the amazing sound from inside the building. Are all firemen in New York born on Krypton? The sound would be loud enough to go deaf. When they would hear the sound of the building tumbling down they had already lost valuable time, then they’d have to turn around (fast), and in their special (superman) suits (not suitable for a 100 meter sprint) they would have needed more than 10 seconds to get out of the building and get to a safe distance from WTC-1: ... CvVNj5vrM8

The following video is even more ridiculous. First we see 2 firemen covered in dust. The black fireman tells they were in WTC-1 when they first heard 2 explosions and with “The third explosion the whole lobby collapsed on us” (the whole building collapsed on them). He tells they got out the building after it fell on top of them. They don’t look badly injured (crushed) to me. The white one has something like a (fake) bloody nose.
Then a third fireman at 1:10 tells “We saw a black very large airplane fly right into the second building” and “We were in the building for the third collapse”. Is this one of the “reliable” witnesses that testified seeing the second plane fly into the Twin Towers? This fireman tells he was in the building for the third collapse (so WTC-7). This is the third fire superman that got out of a building that collapsed on him, without getting seriously hurt:

Re: 9/11 False Flag attack

Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 3:22 pm
by Firestarter
According to the following site my estimate of 200 million dollars for the removal of the asbestos from the whole WTC-complex is much too low:
In 1990 the costs for the removal of asbestos from Broad Street 55 was $70 million, roughly 5 times the building’s construction costs. If the whole World Trade Center was constructed for 1.9 billion, a better estimate of the costs for the removal of asbestos is 9.5 billion dollar (that could be a motive!).

Here’s an interview from 1988 of structural engineer Charlie Thornton that explains that if a plane would crash into the WTC, this wouldn’t destroy the whole building:
On July 28, 1945 a B-25 bomber crashed into the 78th and 79th floors of the Empire State building, killing 14 people (of which 11 office workers). The building didn’t collapse. This is not comparable to the plane crashes we’ve been told about on 9/11, because these planes would be much larger.
One engine shot through the building and flew to the next block, where it crashed on another building. The resulting fire was extinguished in 40 minutes. The bulk of the wreckage remained stuck in the side of the building. Some debris from the crash fell to the streets, but most fell onto the buildings setbacks at the fifth floor.
Here’s a photograph of the hole after the plane crash.

Here’s the hole from inside the Empire State.

Here’s a plane part that fell down on 34th street.

A lot of people don’t even know that besides the Twin Towers WTC-7 collapsed on the same day. The destruction of the 8-story WTC-6 (the US Customs House) has been completely ignored by the state media. According to the official story it was evacuated directly after the first plane hit the North Tower and before the second plane hit the South Tower.
WTC-6 lay between the North Tower and WTC 7. WTC-6 didn’t implode like the Twin Towers and WTC-7, but only the middle of the building was demolished. Pictures after the collapse of the Twin Towers show a gigantic hole in the middle of building 6. This was caused by (another) explosion. The official story claims that this was caused by debris from the North Tower as it collapsed.

Here’s another picture of WTC-6 with the hole in the middle.

At the time the South Tower exploded because of a "plane", at 9:03 AM, a light cloud plume is seen coming from WTC-6 in the broadcast of CNN. I’ve checked out the “live” footage of CNN that I posted earlier, but couldn’t find this plume. They synchronised this explosion with the explosion from the South Tower, so the sound would be hidden. The best information I found on WTC-6 is from Christopher Bollyn: ... on-on-911/

Before the North Tower collapsed WTC-6 already looks severely damaged in a photo of Bill Biggart.

Bollyn references another 9/11 whistleblower - Kurt Sonnenfeld. Sonnenfeld fled to Argentine after he was charged with murdering his wife on January 1, 2002 (Sonnenfeld´s claims his wife committed suicide). Following are some of the things Sonnenfeld said in this interview:
He was dispatched to go to New York even before the second plane hit the South Tower, while the media was still reporting only that a “small plane” had collided with the North Tower — too small a catastrophe to involve FEMA. Later Sonnenfeld learned that FEMA and several other federal agencies had already moved into the command centre at Pier 92 on September 10th, 2001 (before the attacks)!

Sonnenfeld walked around at Ground Zero to tape what he saw. WTC building 6 was crushed and totally incinerated. Below WTC-6 were voids, where Sonnenfeld descended with a special Task Force. He saw that the vault below WTC-6 was empty. It was probably plundered shortly before 9/11.
After 9/11, it was discovered that within WTC-7 was the largest clandestine domestic station of the CIA outside of Washington DC, from which to spy on diplomats of the United Nations and to conduct counterterrorism and counterintelligence missions (was that including the 9/11 terrorist attacks?).
EDIT - The 2 videos of Sonnenfeld, some 8 hours in total, I found earlier have been deleted from Youtube. It is a tape of how Ground Zero looks and he also interviews some workers at Ground Zero. I watched a few snippets, but didn’t find anything good. It´s long, with no voice-over or text to explain what we see, so I gave up.
I found an alternative 7 1/2 hours version: