Trump Haters
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:36 pm
This post is an offshoot from a thread regarding election fraud, which began here:
http://lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1137
The media tells people how they should think, which is really how the oligarchy wants them to think.
The media tells people how the majority does think-- this is often a blatant lie designed to make people who don't agree with the oligarchy believe they are in the minority.
This extends beyond news programs, into a constant barrage that includes entertainment. For example, turn on Kimmel or Fallon, or almost any other program these days and you are treated to a constant harangue of anti-Trump comments.
Just yesterday I was watching Trump's press conference over Charlottesville (I thought Trump handled it very well) with a friend. My friend told me his mom "hates Trump". I asked him why, and he said he has asked her the same thing. He says she doesn't really know why.
I know why-- how could she not hate Trump? She spends hours every day watching television, and everyone on television tells her Trump is bad. How many people can stand up against such a well-organized propaganda machine?
Firestarter, you hate Trump for your own reasons. I don't love him, I didn't vote for him (or anyone), but I don't hate him. In fact I admire his ability to deflect constant attacks from the oligarchy-controlled media. I can't help but strongly suspect he somehow got elected against the wishes of the oligarchy. Sure, it could all be a ruse, but at this point I don't think so, if for no other evidence than the constant attacks on him by the oligarchy-controlled media. That leads me to believe he might not be all bad. The oligarchy is not my friend, but the enemy of my enemy might be. Anyone has to be better than Hillary, who was obviously the oligarchy's choice.
As I see it, most Trump haters, probably 99%, are the ignorant and uneducated who spend most of their time watching television. They are being led around by the nose, by the oligarchy-controlled media. Those same members of the media, by the way, don't really hate Trump-- they simply pretend to hate whoever the oligarchy wants them to hate. After all, the oligarchy signs their paychecks.
Firestarter, to your credit you have actually done some research, and posted more actual reasons to hate Trump than anyone else I've seen. However, your reasons are mostly in the nature of "guilt by association", i.e., Trump was photographed standing next to this bad person, therefore Trump is bad.
Study history back into the antiquities, and you'll see there has always been a "jet set" of people who associated with each other. Those associations are inevitable, due to similar wealth and political stations. The fact they associate does not necessarily mean they have the same beliefs, or participate in the same criminal enterprises.
I realize by opening this topic I'm giving Firestarter a place to compile all his anti-Trump research. So be it. However may I suggest that the mainstream media is already doing this job to the best of their ability, and that it might be more productive to instead work to compile the sins of the oligarchy-backed politicians? Hillary Clinton easily comes to mind.
Getting back to Firestarter's quote up-top, although I despise the oligarchy, I am thankful the United States is not a "real" democracy. I do not trust anyone else to cast votes which might infringe upon my own rights and personal property.
As a quick example--
Money raised from millages go to schools, or to fix sidewalks or build parks. Renters have children who go to schools, and use sidewalks and parks, but they don't (directly) pay property taxes. More people rent than own their own homes. Renters typically tend to vote in favor of millages, which raise property taxes.
Landlords typically don't vote for millages because they don't want to pay more property taxes. Since they are in the minority, they are outvoted. The expense of owning property goes up, forcing the landlord to raise rents.
Somehow, amazingly, most renters never saw this coming when they voted in favor of millages. Funny how that works, isn't it? But wait, all is not lost for the unfortunate renters--
Renters will vote in favor of rent control.
Now you begin to see the problem. The majority of voters (made up of renters) will vote to raise their landlord's expenses while at the same time voting to reduce his collections. Eventually the landlord can no longer afford to make repairs, so the tenants vote to force landlords to make repairs anyway. This doesn't help, since you can't squeeze blood from a stone, it merely accelerates the inevitable. The landlord's property becomes virtually worthless-- his property effectively taken from him by the vote of the majority. He can't sell it, because who else wants to own it under those circumstances?
Finally, the majority of voters (made up of renters) vote to tax the "rich" (it's really the middle class who pays most of the taxes) to subsidize housing for the poor, who are now the only tenants who will live in the once-affluent, but now rundown building which their votes helped destroy.
Democracy in action.
I seem to remember a post of Firestarter's, which criticized Trump's father, and by extension Trump himself, over an allegedly racist practice involving apartment buildings in which the owners were victims of pretty much the same scenario I've described above. Were the Trumps really racist, or were they simply trying to slow the inevitable decay of an investment?
Okay, rant over. I feel better now.
http://lawfulpath.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1137
I agree the United States is not a "real" democracy, and has never been. It started out as a representative republic, and eventually became a plantation wholly owned by the international banking cartel; in other words, an oligarchy. Using their control of the media, the oligarchy maintains the illusion of democracy.Firestarter wrote:
It's easy to predict that in a "real" democracy the difference in wealth between the "rich" and the "poor" decreases. While the official numbers show that this gap is increasing.
The media tells people how they should think, which is really how the oligarchy wants them to think.
The media tells people how the majority does think-- this is often a blatant lie designed to make people who don't agree with the oligarchy believe they are in the minority.
This extends beyond news programs, into a constant barrage that includes entertainment. For example, turn on Kimmel or Fallon, or almost any other program these days and you are treated to a constant harangue of anti-Trump comments.
Just yesterday I was watching Trump's press conference over Charlottesville (I thought Trump handled it very well) with a friend. My friend told me his mom "hates Trump". I asked him why, and he said he has asked her the same thing. He says she doesn't really know why.
I know why-- how could she not hate Trump? She spends hours every day watching television, and everyone on television tells her Trump is bad. How many people can stand up against such a well-organized propaganda machine?
Firestarter, you hate Trump for your own reasons. I don't love him, I didn't vote for him (or anyone), but I don't hate him. In fact I admire his ability to deflect constant attacks from the oligarchy-controlled media. I can't help but strongly suspect he somehow got elected against the wishes of the oligarchy. Sure, it could all be a ruse, but at this point I don't think so, if for no other evidence than the constant attacks on him by the oligarchy-controlled media. That leads me to believe he might not be all bad. The oligarchy is not my friend, but the enemy of my enemy might be. Anyone has to be better than Hillary, who was obviously the oligarchy's choice.
As I see it, most Trump haters, probably 99%, are the ignorant and uneducated who spend most of their time watching television. They are being led around by the nose, by the oligarchy-controlled media. Those same members of the media, by the way, don't really hate Trump-- they simply pretend to hate whoever the oligarchy wants them to hate. After all, the oligarchy signs their paychecks.
Firestarter, to your credit you have actually done some research, and posted more actual reasons to hate Trump than anyone else I've seen. However, your reasons are mostly in the nature of "guilt by association", i.e., Trump was photographed standing next to this bad person, therefore Trump is bad.
Study history back into the antiquities, and you'll see there has always been a "jet set" of people who associated with each other. Those associations are inevitable, due to similar wealth and political stations. The fact they associate does not necessarily mean they have the same beliefs, or participate in the same criminal enterprises.
I realize by opening this topic I'm giving Firestarter a place to compile all his anti-Trump research. So be it. However may I suggest that the mainstream media is already doing this job to the best of their ability, and that it might be more productive to instead work to compile the sins of the oligarchy-backed politicians? Hillary Clinton easily comes to mind.
Getting back to Firestarter's quote up-top, although I despise the oligarchy, I am thankful the United States is not a "real" democracy. I do not trust anyone else to cast votes which might infringe upon my own rights and personal property.
As a quick example--
Money raised from millages go to schools, or to fix sidewalks or build parks. Renters have children who go to schools, and use sidewalks and parks, but they don't (directly) pay property taxes. More people rent than own their own homes. Renters typically tend to vote in favor of millages, which raise property taxes.
Landlords typically don't vote for millages because they don't want to pay more property taxes. Since they are in the minority, they are outvoted. The expense of owning property goes up, forcing the landlord to raise rents.
Somehow, amazingly, most renters never saw this coming when they voted in favor of millages. Funny how that works, isn't it? But wait, all is not lost for the unfortunate renters--
Renters will vote in favor of rent control.
Now you begin to see the problem. The majority of voters (made up of renters) will vote to raise their landlord's expenses while at the same time voting to reduce his collections. Eventually the landlord can no longer afford to make repairs, so the tenants vote to force landlords to make repairs anyway. This doesn't help, since you can't squeeze blood from a stone, it merely accelerates the inevitable. The landlord's property becomes virtually worthless-- his property effectively taken from him by the vote of the majority. He can't sell it, because who else wants to own it under those circumstances?
Finally, the majority of voters (made up of renters) vote to tax the "rich" (it's really the middle class who pays most of the taxes) to subsidize housing for the poor, who are now the only tenants who will live in the once-affluent, but now rundown building which their votes helped destroy.
Democracy in action.
I seem to remember a post of Firestarter's, which criticized Trump's father, and by extension Trump himself, over an allegedly racist practice involving apartment buildings in which the owners were victims of pretty much the same scenario I've described above. Were the Trumps really racist, or were they simply trying to slow the inevitable decay of an investment?
Okay, rant over. I feel better now.