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Re: Adolf Hitler – British agent

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:43 pm
by notmartha
Firestarter wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:33 pm
When I read these type of “conspiracy books” I wind up looking through the reference list looking for books with real “research” as this is the only way to find out what is fact or fiction...
I do the same thing - go right to the bibliography to check sources. That is why I thought you might like Texe. Many of his cited sources are the same as you post here.
Firestarter wrote:
Mon Jun 25, 2018 4:33 pm
For thousands of years, organised religion has been used to control the masses. There is no plan to replace all religions with a “one world religion” like “New Age”.
There are several reasons why “they” want more than 1 religion. For example to support war. Can you even imagine the “War on terror” if we realise that Christianity and Islam are basically the same religion?
When there are more religions to control the slaves “they” can claim that we have “freedom” of religion.
There have been made plans, but these plans have evolved in time.

The one world religion is already in full swing under the name of STATISM. STATE is all, all is STATE. People pray to STATE, revere STATE, sacrifice themselves and their children to STATE, tithe to STATE (and way more than God ever required!), look to STATE to be their moral compass and Lawmakers, beg STATE to provide their food, shelter, employment, education, protection, etc. etc. STATE is selling people on the original lie that "you will be as gods" with generation after generation of training in narcissism... and the people are buying. Sure, some will grumble about STATE now and then, but those same people will reverently say the pledge and stand at teary eyed attention for the national anthem...and get visibly shaken and pissed when you do not. Yes, STATE likes the ILLUSION of religious freedom, and having many religions (i.e. controlled opposition) to choose from. Yes, their "laws" say you can believe whatever you want...but must act in best interest of STATE. STATE is the Beast System that will religiously be obeyed by most and loved by many...or else...

The plan has been the same for thousands of years. Think along the lines of Nimrod in Babylon. God will let their plan come to fruition in His time, and only in His time.

To tie this back into people's fascination with Hitler...

He was a test balloon of sorts, to see just how many people would obey, worship, love STATE in spite of the heinous things done in the name of STATE. History tells the outcome.

Re: Adolf Hitler – British agent

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:49 am
by notmartha
I have not read it yet, but want to archive here another book I found:

Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil by Gerard Menuhin

never mind... see Firestarters review below.

Re: Adolf Hitler – British agent

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:46 pm
by Firestarter
notmartha wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:43 pm
I do the same thing - go right to the bibliography to check sources. That is why I thought you might like Texe. Many of his cited sources are the same as you post here.
There are literally thousands of "conspiracy books" and I just don't have the time to read all of them...
My "interests" aren't stationary, and it could very well be that when I first joined this forum, I would have found the Texe Marrs books excellent. It could even be that when some time has passed I'll read some of the Texe Marrs books...

notmartha wrote:
Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:43 pm
The one world religion is already in full swing under the name of STATISM. STATE is all, all is STATE. People pray to STATE, revere STATE, sacrifice themselves and their children to STATE, tithe to STATE (and way more than God ever required!), look to STATE to be their moral compass and Lawmakers, beg STATE to provide their food, shelter, employment, education, protection, etc. etc. STATE is selling people on the original lie that "you will be as gods" with generation after generation of training in narcissism...
It could be that we completely agree, but only use different words.
I wouldn't call "state worshipping" a "One world religion" as everybody prays to another "state". I believe that when you talk about "state" you're talking about what most people call "country" (as opposed to "state" in the United States).

So now the people of the US "worship" the stars and stripes.
In the Netherlands people bow down to the family of "Orange".
And in Iran they support the Ayatollah.

To me all of these religions, philosophies, countries, political flavours, etc are nothing but schemes to spread animosity.
So according to my reasoning the "One world religion" (if you could call it) is really greed, fear, selfishness and hate.

notmartha wrote:
Sun Jul 29, 2018 11:49 am
I have not read it yet, but want to archive here another book I found:

Tell the Truth and Shame the Devil by Gerard Menuhin
That’s a Neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, Hitler-worshipping book. If you try really hard you could find some “truth” between the lies...

Bizarrely Neo-Nazis complain about the mainstream media portraying their “hero” Adolf Hitler as a “monster”. And then point out that he was named Time’s “man of the year” to show what a wonderful chap he was!
They also simply copy-paste whatever quote they can to show how admirable Hitler was. For example:
Adolf Hitler reckoned, as it now turned out, as so often in earlier years, with rationality, he reckoned not only as a German, but as a European. He truly reckoned in the interest of a higher humanity, which he wished to see put into effect in ethnically-based communities.

To “prove” that Hitler was really the "saviour" of mankind they leave out sources that contradict the Nazi-propaganda (just like “mainstream” state propaganda).
For example no book of Antony Sutton is in the reference list...

I don't know if we should call fascism just another flavour of the "One world religion". I prefer to see this as mind control through greed, fear, selfishness and hate. Not "one" because it is intended to spread hate between different "parties".

Like I've written before if they found a "One world religion" it will be called "science". A "science" that supports state propaganda, lies and genocide in the best tradition of the "German" Nazis.
The big advantage of "science" is that it can't be argued, even if the "science" is complete lies. Everybody that disagrees with the supposed "science" can be called stupid, uneducated and/or a quack...

Re: Adolf Hitler – British agent

Posted: Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:54 pm
by notmartha
Firestarter wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:46 pm
I wouldn't call "state worshipping" a "One world religion" as everybody prays to another "state". I believe that when you talk about "state" you're talking about what most people call "country" (as opposed to "state" in the United States).
"STATE" is a fiction existing only in people's minds. The people acting on their belief in STATE is what causes the world problems. Technically, "Country" is a piece of land while "State" is a body politic. It doesn't matter where you call home, people's belief in STATE is the same. And when there is one big SUPER STATE, all will believe...or else.

Compare STATISM and FASCISM and SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM. All these "isms" require faith in STATE in order to exist (in equity, not in law, as fictions never exist as a matter of law).
Firestarter wrote:
Mon Jul 30, 2018 2:46 pm
That’s a Neo-Nazi, anti-Semitic, Hitler-worshipping book. If you try really hard you could find some “truth” between the lies...
Thanks for saving me the time of reading it. I edited my post as to not pass on bad information.

Re: Adolf Hitler – British agent

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 2:59 pm
by Firestarter
notmartha wrote:
Tue Jul 31, 2018 12:54 pm
"STATE" is a fiction existing only in people's minds. The people acting on their belief in STATE is what causes the world problems. Technically, "Country" is a piece of land while "State" is a body politic. It doesn't matter where you call home, people's belief in STATE is the same. And when there is one big SUPER STATE, all will believe...or else.

Compare STATISM and FASCISM and SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM. All these "isms" require faith in STATE in order to exist (in equity, not in law, as fictions never exist as a matter of law).
I see that you started another thread on (the word) "state": ... =23&t=1027
You have very definite idea on how English should be. As English isn't my first language I really can't.

As for the "believe" in state, statism, I think there are 2 main "types" of religion:
- Us against them, including: Statism, Judaism, Christianity, Islam, Socialism, Communism, Liberalism, Rastafarai, Fascism.
- Believing you can become Godlike, including: Hinduism, Buddhism, Philosophy, Anarchy, Science.

When I was young I thought that the purpose of all organised religion is slavery. I still think that our world would be a better place without "religion" (you can see that I consider religion much wider than most).

Charles Higham – Trading with the enemy

Posted: Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:00 pm
by Firestarter
I’ve found another book on financing the German Nazis from Wall Street; Charles Higham – TRADING WITH THE ENEMY (1983): ... os-org.pdf

The scope of the book is narrower than the Antony Sutton book on the same topic (that was my post important source for the Original Post in this thread). This has the advantage that it’s easier to read. So if you’re interested in this topic and for some reason find the Sutton book unreadable, this could be THE book for you. Higham blames the German-American “Fraternity” for WW II.
I prefer the Antony Sutton book. Some of the interesting names completely missing in Higham’s book (while Sutton’s book IS in the reference list).
Union Banking Corporation (UBC): the Thyssen bank in the US with a direct link to the father of later US President George Bush Sr – Prescott Bush.
Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart (BHS): the Thyssen bank in the Netherlands with a direct link to the Dutch Royal family.
Max Warburg: the banker directly linked to Rothschild.
Ernst Franz Sedgwick Hanfstaengl: Hitler and Roosevelt’s friend.

The following interesting information is in the Higham book…

In 1929, Hermann Schmitz, his nephew Max Ilgner, Walter Teagle, Edsel Ford, and Charles E. Mitchell (National City Bank) set up the US-German organisation: American I.G./Chemical Corp.

In 1930, the Bank for International Settlements (BIS) was created. On the board of directors of BIS German and American Nazis were collaborating: its first president was Gates W. McGarrah (formerly of Rockefeller’s Chase National Bank and the Federal Reserve Bank) who was succeeded in 1933 by another American, Leon Fraser.
On the board of directors they were joined by the German Nazis Hermann Schmitz (chairman of IG Farben), Baron Kurt von Schröder (head of the JH Stein Bank of Cologne and financier and high officer of the Gestapo); Dr. Walther Funk (of the Reichsbank), and Emil Puhl.
These days the BIS is (still) active. It’s nicknamed the “bank of banks” and “most powerful bank in the world”…

Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht, German Minister of Economics and president of the German Central Bank (Reichsbank), spent part of his childhood in Brooklyn and had powerful Wall Street connections.
James D. Mooney of General Motors and William Rhodes Davis of the Davis Oil Company enjoyed pleasant meetings with Adolf Hitler and Hermann Göring.
During the war, J. Edgar Hoover, Adolf A. Berle, Henry Morgenthau, and Harold Ickes kept President Roosevelt informed on the US-Nazi connections.

Walter C. Teagle (chairman of Rockefeller’ Standard Oil) was friendly with Director of Royal Dutch-Shell Sir Henri Deterding. Teagle was also close to Henry Ford and became director of American IG Chemical Corp.

In May 1940, diamond merchant in New York, Leonard Smit, began smuggling diamonds to Nazi Germany through Panama. Smit's company was Dutch, but its stock was owned by the International Trading Company located in Guernsey in the Channel Islands.
On 15 July 1941, Major Charles A. Burrows of Military Intelligence reported that Standard Oil was shipping oil from Dutch Aruba to Tenerife in the Canary Islands; about 20% of this oil was destined for Germany.

Sosthenes Behn (head of the US telephone giant ITT) became an important aid to his friend Hermann Göring. In 1938, he and Schröder obtained 28% of the Focke-Wulf company.
In South America, Behn partnered with the giant Radio Corporation of America (RCA), which owned NBC. In Transradio Consortium, RCA partnered with: British Cable and Wireless; the German Telefunken; Italcable (fully owned by the Mussolini government); and Vichy's Compagnie Générale. General Robert C. Davis, head of the New York Chapter of the American Red Cross, was its chairman.
On 16 February 1946, Behn was awarded the Medal of Merit on behalf of President Truman.

The half Jewish princess Stefanie Hohenlohe and General Erhard Milch of the air force were given the title of “Honorary Aryan" by Joseph Goebbels. Stefanie also was presented a swastika-shaped diamond clip from Hitler for her help.
In the early 1930s, Stefanie and Nazi General Fritz Wiedemann had a relationship. They were friendly with millionaire Lord Rothermere, British owner of the London Daily Mail, who used the princess to donate $5 million to get Hitler in power. In the late 1930s, Princess Stefanie travelled to London, Paris, Berlin, Salzburg, Madrid, and Rome. In 1937, Stefanie and Wiedemann visited the US where they met Nazi-supporters, including Sosthenes Behn, Walter Teagle, and Edsel Ford. Hermann Schmitz rewarded the princess with some shares in IG Farben.
In 1940, Princess Stefanie met Sir William Wiseman, who had been head of British Intelligence in World War I and was now a partner in the Kuhn, Loeb banking company.
A scandal erupted in 1941, when Princess Stefanie was again in the US over an affair with Major Lemuel Schofield Schofield. It took until 1944 before the Princess could leave the US.

Nazis, CDU, European Commission

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:02 pm
by Firestarter
It’s amazing that all of these German Nazis (that weren’t executed) had such successful careers after the end of WW II (the British Nazis won)...

Lawyer Hans Globke was a key figure in Hitler’s Ministry of Internal Affairs.
In 1935, Hans Globke wrote the bill for the “Protection of the German Blood...” and co-authored the official legal annotation on the new Reich Citizenship law; one of the Nuremberg Laws that revoked citizenship of German Jews. Needless to say Globke’s annotation didn’t criticise the racist law at all.
In 1938, Globke became Undersecretary as a reward for his "extraordinary efforts in drafting the law for the Protection of the German Blood...". On 25 April 1938, Reich Interior Minister Wilhelm Frick praised Globke for being the most “efficient official" in drafting anti-Semitic laws.

After he was caught by the Allied forces, Globke simply claimed that he had been part of the “resistance” against National Sozialism, and was therefore “exonerated”. Globke was a willing witness for both the defence and the prosecution at the Nuremberg trials.
In 1949, he was appointed undersecretary at the German Chancellery for the CDU party. In 1951, he drafted the bill that restored back pay, pension, and advancement to civil servants who served in the Nazi regime (including himself).
From 1953-1963, he served as Secretary of State and Chief of Staff of the West-German Chancellery and was one of the closest aides to Chancellor Konrad Adenauer. He was the main government's liaison with NATO and western intelligence services, including the CIA.

At the beginning of the 1960s, Globke was accused for responsibility for the Holocaust in Greece.
In May 1961, Adenauer intervened to transfer the criminal proceedings to the public prosecutor's office in Bonn, where it was closed due to “lack of evidence”:

When Brexit was staged some interesting articles appeared that the European Union was founded by German Nazis. That is not my opinion...
On 24 April 1964, some key architects met at the “Brussels EU” headquarters to discuss the future of Europe. The 5 men in the following picture had all been active members of the IG Farben/Nazi coalition during WWII.

1. Walter Hallstein - EU Commission President
In 1958, German lawyer Hallstein was selected as the founding president of the so-called EU Commission, the highest body within the “EU” (he remained its president until 1967). He was affiliated with the CDU.
Before and during WWII Hallstein was a fervent advocate of Nazi law. On 23 January 1939, 3 years after the German Nazis had issued the Nuremberg racial laws – and only months before the Nazis attacked Poland – Hallstein heralded the future European law under German leadership (see below).

2. Ludwig Erhard - German Chancellor
In 1942, economic consultant Erhard founded and became the director of the Nazi-financed “Institut für Industrieforschung” (“Institute for Industry Research”).
He was married to the sister of Dr. Guth, the head of the “Reichsguppe Industrie” – the Nazi’s official association of German industrialists.
After WW II ended, Erhard became an economic consultant to the Allied forces (that was starving millions of Germans to death) and later Minister of Economic Affairs and Chancellor for the CDU in post-war Germany. He was responsible for the rehabilitation of IG Farben managers into leading corporate positions.

3. Ludger Westrick - Head of the German Chancellery
During WW II, Westrick was chairman and trustee of the state-owned “Vereinigte Industrie-Unternehmen AG” (VIAG) during the Nazi era.
In post-war Germany, Westrick joined the CDU. Westrick was the immediate successor of Globke (see above) as head of the German chancellery.

4. Karl Carstens, Secretary of State for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs
Carstens was an enthusiastic Nazi, who joined the SA in 1934. He became a registered member of the NSDAP in 1940.
In 1955, he (also) joined the CDU.

5. Karl-Günther von Hase, Head of the Information Service of the German government
In 1936, Von Hase joined the Wehrmacht. In 1939 he participated in the invasion of Poland; in 1940 the Battle of France; and from 1941 to 1945 the Invasion of Russia.
He married the daughter of a Nazi-General and was also a member of the CDU party:
(archived here:

On Hallstein (1 in the previous picture) there are some contradictory stories on the internet...
The “independent” Wikipedia for example insinuates that Hallstein “rejected Nazi ideology and to have kept his distance from the Nazis” and instead was a mere, academic law professor (like “law” is independent from politics...).

From 1948 to 1949, he spent a year as visiting professor at Georgetown University in Washington.
Hallstein was co-founder of the eugenics, German national UNESCO committee and its president from 1949 to 1950.
French President Charles de Gaulle objected to Hallstein as President of the European Commission. In particular because he frequently visited US presidents, although he had no foreign relations mandate:

Walter Hallstein was both a member of the Association of National Socialist German lawyers that was founded and the Nazi Association of Law Protectors. Needless to say membership to these Nazi organisations was restricted to lawyers that supported, and participated in, the implementation of Nazi ideology.

In May 1938, for example, one year before the outbreak of WW II, Adolf Hitler paid a state visit to Italy. To further the goals a bi-national commission was established, with the goal of creating the legal basis of taking over European countries. One of the legal experts on this commission was none other than Walter Hallstein.

On 23 January 1939, in Rostock, Germany, Hallstein held a speech heralded the “link up” with Austria and large parts of Czechoslovakia (Sudetenland) as “the Creation of the Greater German Reich” and the “legal Germanization of the New Territories”. In other words, he was claiming that Germany had the legal right to take over these countries.
Hallstein said that one of the most important laws to be introduced in the annexed countries was the “Law for the Protection of the German Blood"; he advocated the imposition of the Nuremberg race laws.
That Hallstein’s lecture was an official Nazi is confirmed by the presence of Nazi Minister of State, Dr. Scharf: ... ommission/

See some excerpts from Hallstein’s January 1939 speech (and judge for yourself):
All internal problems, all internal tasks are overshadowed by the great impact of the Link-up; they are overwhelmed by the magnificent impulses that the Legal Policy Work obtains from the Homecoming of Austria and Sudetenland.

The Creation of the Greater German Reich is:
• A political fact, a ‘Fuehrer Act’ of Epochal Dimension;
• One of those Acts that change the Landscape of History and fulfil an old Longing of the People;
• An Economic Event of sheer unimaginable consequences;
• An event of exceptional significance from the perspective of the History of the Law.

The task is no longer just to renovate a dilapidated old house, but to construct a New Building for an Enlarged Family on an Extended Territory.

Moreover, this process subjugates the People and the Territories to the Sovereignty of the Mother State with its defined Legislative and Executive Constitutional Powers.

In other legal areas, the Link-Up leaves the existing legal order intact. In all the Unified Territories, the old legal system continues – except, of course, where this contradicts the Constitution of the Unified State.

Thus, for the Greater German Reich, a Common Legal System is not a fact that automatically results from the creation of this (future) Reich, but it is a task.

The second group of immediate laws, which are expanding daily, comprises the Directives concerning the Build-up of State Organizations, Material Rights or Proceedings about which the National Socialist Law Maker has already cast its verdict – either by maintaining Existing Legal Conditions or by Creating New Ones.

These Directives are ‘causa iudicata’, i.e. they have entered from the State of Law Policy into the State of Existing Order. These laws require no further deliberations.

The most important Acts in this category that were immediately introduced were:
The Law for the Protection of the German Blood and the German Honour; ... peech.html

Re: Adolf Hitler – British agent

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2018 4:43 pm
by Firestarter
I’ve found another interesting book on this topic. It was written by US government bureaucrat James Stewart Martin in 1950, who was actually involved in investigating the links between the German Nazis and companies, people in the US both during and after WW II.
He was also actively involved in implementing the Morgenthau plan in which millions of Germans were starved to death (to make the world a better place of course) over which James Stewart Martin doesn’t display any kind of guilt.
Martin writes the information from the viewpoint that the US government was simply fooled. Maybe he didn’t know that President Franklin D. Roosevelt was financed by the same banksters that financed Hitler or Roosevelt’s good friend Ernst Frans Sedgwick “Putzi” Hanfstaeng, who was part of Hitler’s entourage.
There are even some interesting stories on Dutch companies...

Insurance policies – Zurich, Munich
During WW II, Martin found out that Germany gotten a hold of information on US corporations through reinsurance on ships and cargoes with the Zurich group. The Zurich group had a reinsurance treaty with the Munich reinsurance pool in Germany. In 1940 and early 1941, by the time a ship departed from New York or Baltimore harbour headed for a European port, the German intelligence service already had the sailing data in hand.
Another detail that should have raised suspicion was that the information that was cabled to Zurich (and wound up in Germany) included blueprints of the installation, description of the fire hazards and risks, and inventory of the contents of buildings.

In 1942, Martin’s group proposed that the Attorney General send a letter to each company warning that transmission of this type of marine and industrial information could violate the Espionage Act. Solicitor General Charles Fahy refused approval without consulting the other interested departments of the government.
They showed how informative inspection reports could be to an outsider, by sending similar data of US reinsurance firms on important European plants, like Philips lamp and radio-tube factories at Eindhoven, the Netherlands.

Even after sending sensitive information for insurance abroad was restricted; Germany could still obtain this type of information through insurance inspector reports inside the US. Joe Borkin, who wasn’t in the insurance business, for example purchased this type of information.
In the summer of 1945, the files of the Munich Reinsurance Company and the German intelligence service confirmed that they had photographs, blueprints, and detailed descriptions of industrial developments in the US, many of them obtained through insurance channels.

Von Schroder - Dulles
Baron Kurt von Schroder was an important player in Nazi Germany. Heinrich Himmler repeatedly sent him letters asking for millions of money.
Until the 1929 crash, US companies sent dollars at an average rate of over $250 million to Germany. The 2 investment banks that handled the bulk of this private lending system were Dillon, Read & Company of New York, and the J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation. Legal work on the Schroder Bank loans was handled in Germany by the firm of Albert & Westrick, and in the US by Sullivan & Cromwell, headed by John Foster Dulles.

The J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation and Sullivan & Cromwell handled the banking and legal business of the General Aniline firm from the time it was first set up as the American I.G. Chemical Corporation.
Throughout the war, Allen W. Dulles, a partner in Sullivan & Cromwell and until 1944 a director of the Schroder bank in New York, headed the European Mission of the Office of Strategic Services in Switzerland (the wartime predecessor of the CIA). V. Lada-Mocarski, vice president of the Schroder bank, was a US consul in Switzerland.

Another member of the family, Baron Bruno von Schroder, moved to London early in life but remained a German citizen until 1914 when he became a British subject. Bruno headed the banking firms J. Henry Schroder & Company of London, and the J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation of New York until his death in 1940, when he was succeeded by his son, Helmuth W.B. Schroder.
When Martin and his team were zooming in on Von Schroder they were working in the Finance Division of General Wickersham's headquarters with Captain Norbert A. Bogdan, who was vice president of the J. Henry Schroder Banking Corporation of New York. Captain Bogdan argued vigorously against investigation of Von Schroder’s Stein Bank.

Kurt von Schroder was very good friends with Franz von Papen and Gerhardt A. Westrick. Westrick was a prominent German lawyer of the law partnership of Albert & Westrick. The senior partner of that firm, Heinrich Albert, was another of Von Papen's friends.
Albert went to the US in 1914, where he raised over $30 million to finance the espionage and sabotage activities in the US that were directed by Franz von Papen during World War II. They used these funds, for example, to buy up all the chemical stoneware produced in the US. Many American chemical plants were eventually shut down for lack of this stoneware.

VGF, AKU Holding company - Van Vlissingen
In July 1929, AKU was formed in the Netherlands by an agreement between the shareholders of the Dutch firm Enka and the shareholders of the German VGF. AKU became the owner of 99% of the stock of VGF.
Dutch AKU held the controlling shares in 3 of the largest rayon firms in the US: American Enka, North American Rayon, and American Bemberg. The Alien Property Custodian proposed to seize these firms; but the Dutch government in exile successfully protested.

When Martin travelled to the Netherlands after WW II to investigate AKU, he was stonewalled. Dutch officials made it impossible to talk to the involved bankers, let alone examine their books.
Instead an officer of the Dutch Military Administration simply made up a "report" a few weeks later that 70-75% of the AKU shares were owned by Dutch interests. There was a special class of 48 "priority" shares that gave the owners the right to name candidates for the board of directors. In 1929, 22 of these 48 shares were allocated to the German VGF, 22 to the Dutch group, and the remaining 4 to the British firm of Courtaulds, Ltd., which with VGF co-owned Glanzstoff-Courtaulds GmbH of Cologne.
From 1929 onward, the AKU board of directors consisted of chairman Fentener van Vlissingen, 2 other Dutchmen, and 6 Germans, including Baron von Schroder, Hermann Abs, Ernst Viu, and Johannes Kiehl of Deutsche Bank.

In 1937, Fentener van Vlissingen was decorated with the Merit Cross by Adolf Hitler.
On 5 July 1940, after the Dutch surrender to the Germans, Van Vlissingen became chairman of the Dutch National Committee for Economic Collaboration.
In June 1945, Van Vlissingen was already heading the commission appointed by the Dutch Military Administration to purge certain “collaborators” from the Dutch government and important positions in industry.

Philips Intelligence
The Dutch N.V. Philips Gloeilampenfabrieken (Electric Lamp Works), Eindhoven, the Netherlands played a very dubious role throughout WW II.

Before Germany invaded the Netherlands, they split control over the Philips international in 5 parts. They drew up the trust agreements so that the Dutch Philips executives kept the power to control properties and affairs of the combine anywhere in the world, both inside and outside Axis territory.
The head office at Curacao controlled the Philips subsidiaries in the Dutch Antilles, Surinam, Sweden and Switzerland.
The Midland Bank of London took control over the companies in the British Empire.
The Hartford Bank and Trust Company controlled Philips companies in North and South America, Spain and Portugal.
Philips properties in Germany, Austria, Czechoslovakia and Poland were placed under a trusteeship of a German holding company headed by Dr. Karl Mey, who had previously served as director of German Osram (also a big manufacturer of electric lamps).
Frits Philips, stayed in Eindhoven to manage the properties in the Netherlands.

Philips Eindhoven had been a cogwheel between German firms and their American partners, like General Electric, for a long time. In 1935, for example H.F. van Walsem of Philips had written to head of International General Electric, Clark Minor, for an international “gentlemen’s agreement” to violate US antitrust laws, which Philips did on a regular basis.

Philips officials in the US during the war enjoyed the protection of what amounted to diplomatic immunity.
The US Military Intelligence somehow agreed to give Philips executives permission to ship materials through the blockade into Axis territory.

In Portugal, the Philips subsidiary got supplies from the US and England. It also received patent applications from Eindhoven and filed them in Portugal to obtain patent protection in Portugal on behalf of the Dutch (part of the) company.
The Portuguese branch sent reports to New York on agreements between the Dutch Philips company and German industrialists. It also received reports from New York on Philips activities in the US and Latin America.

I don’t think that it goes too far to conclude that Philips executives were acting as double spies for the Allies and the Axis.

James Stewart Martin – All honorable men (1950): ... n_djvu.txt
(PDF version: ... %20Men.pdf)

Vatican and the Nazis

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2018 5:34 pm
by Firestarter
There are many contradictory stories on how (and if) the Vatican helped Adolf Hitler to power in Germany.
In defence of Nazi Pope Pius XII it has even claimed that he was developing plans to have Hitler assassinated.
It has also been claimed that Hitler was violently anti-Catholic (which is true!) but the idea that Hitler had plans to kidnap the Pope are just plain silly.

See Catholic Bishops in Germany with Joseph Goebbels (far right) and Wilhelm Frick (second from right) giving the Nazi salute in honour of Hitler.

Under Pope Pius XI, the Catholic Church concluded 18 concordats.
In 1929, Pius XI signed the Lateran Treaty with Italy, confirming that the Vatican wouldn’t oppose the fascist party of Benito Mussolini.

During the 1920s, the Catholic Zentrum party did clash with the Nazis. More than 1 out of 3 Germans were Catholics at the time.
The Catholic church of Germany was relatively independent from the Vatican and didn’t support the Nazis.

On 14 July, the Weimar government accepted the Reich concordat (Reichskonkordat). It was signed by Pacelli for the Vatican and Von Papen for Germany.
On 20 July1933, President Hindenburg signed in Rome, and it was ratified in September. This gave the Catholic clergymen the obligation to bow down to the Nazi state.
The Concordat also substantially increased the prestige of Hitler's new regime (after he had become Chancellor in January 1933) around the world. As it showed that he was supported by the highly respected Catholic Church, “the greatest moral power on earth”.
See from left to right: Ludwig Kaas, Franz von Papen, Vatican Secretary Giuseppe Pizzardo, Eugenio Pacelli, Alfredo Ottoviani, and member of German Home Office Rudolf Buttmann.

The Concordat ordered German Catholics to love, honour, obey and protect the Nazis.
See (the translation of) Article 16 of the concordat:
Before bishops take possession of their dioceses, they perform an oath of allegiance in the hand of the Reichsstatthalter [Governor of the Reich] in the regional State concerned, or of the President of the Reich, according to the following formula:
”‘Before God and on the Holy Gospels I swear and promise, as becomes a bishop, loyalty to the German Reich and to the [regional] State of ... I swear and promise to honour the Government formed in accord with the Constitution and to cause my clergy to honour it.
In dutiful solicitude for the welfare and the interest of the German State, I will, while exercising the religious post that has been assigned to me, strive to prevent any harm that could threaten it.”

According to Article 21 of the concordat, German Catholic educators will teach children to support the Nazi state:
Catholic religious instruction in primary, vocational, secondary and higher schools is a regular subject of tuition and is to be taught in accordance with the principles of the Catholic Church. In religious instruction the patriotic, civic and social consciousness and sense of duty will be particularly stressed and cultivated, as this is generally done in the school training.
The teaching program of religious education and the selection of text books will be settled with by agreement with the higher ecclesiastical authorities. These authorities will be given the opportunity to control, in harmony with the school authorities, whether pupils are receiving religious instruction in accordance with the teaching and requirements of the Church.

Even before signing the Concordat, the Vatican pushed the Zentrum party to vote for the Enabling act, which needed a 2/3 parliamentary majority, that gave Hitler the authority to create new laws without parliamentary approval, thus making him the dictator of Germany.
Zentrum leader Monsignor Ludwig Kaas, a close friend and advisor to Eugenio Pacelli, the later Pope Pius XII, endorsed the Enabling act. This led to Zentrum and smaller allied parties to vote “yes” on 23 March 1933, without this support the act wouldn’t have become law.

On 6 July 1933, the Catholic Zentrum party dissolved itself, 2 weeks before the concordat that would prohibit the Catholic clergy to be politically active.

Subsequently, the Catholic hierarchy was active in Nazi movements outside Germany, for example in the Balkans, where the church supported the Nazi rule over Croatia:
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On 29 March 1933, Cardinal Secretary of State Pacelli (the highest in Vatican hierarchy after the Pope) instructed the German bishops that they must support National Socialism.
On 31 March, Kaas was received by Hitler. He returned to Rome accompanied by the Catholic Vice-chancellor Von Papen on 7 April with a mandate from Hitler to agree on a Concordat with the Vatican. Ludwig Kaas, for Cardinal Pacelli, negotiated a Concordat draft with Von Papen.

The German bishops saw a draft of the Concordat on 30 May 1933. They approved the draft and delegated Grober, a friend of Cardinal Pacelli and Msgr. Kaas, to present the episcopacy's concerns to Pacelli and Kaas. On June 3, the bishops issued a statement, drafted by Grober, that announced their support for the concordat.

Almost immediately after signing the Concordat, the Nazis promulgated their eugenics sterilisation law:

Pacelli, later as Pope Pius XII, met Adolf Hitler.

Hitler’s Pope; Knights of Malta

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2018 5:23 pm
by Firestarter
Eugenio Pacelli was born in Rome in 1876, into a family of church lawyers who served the Vatican. His grandfather had been a legal adviser to Pope Pius IX.

Aged 41, Pacelli as an archbishop was dispatched to Munich as papal nuncio (or ambassador), to make a deal that would give the Vatican complete control over the German Catholic church.
Pacelli spent 13 years in Germany, where he formed a close relationship with Ludwig Kaas of the Zentrum Party; he was also a Roman Catholic priest. Pacelli helped Kaas to become the chairman of Zentrum.

In the elections of September 1930, the NSDAP (Nazi party) enjoyed its first great success. Since then Hitler was trying to make a treaty with the Vatican similar to that struck with Mussolini.
In August 1931, German chancellor Heinrich Brüning visited Pacelli in the Vatican. Pacelli lectured Brüning on how he should make a deal with the Nazis to help achieve a Reich Concordat favourable to the Vatican.

In January 1937, 3 German cardinals and 2 bishops arrived at the Vatican to protest over Nazi persecution of the Catholic Church. Pius XI at last decided to issue a letter addressed to all the Catholic faithful of the world where he denounced the Nazis “Mit Brennender Sorge” (With deep anxiety).
In the summer of 1938, Pius XI was planning another letter against Nazi practices “Humani Generis Unitas” (The Unity of the Human Race).

Just when Pius XI was planning to withdraw the papal nuncio from Berlin because it “conflicts with our honour”, on 10 February 1939 he died aged 81. On March 2, Pacelli (aged 63) was elected Pope (Pius XII) by the College of Cardinals.
Pius XII maintained a “normal” diplomatic relation with the Nazi regime. The following month, Pacelli instructed the Berlin nuncio, Archbishop Cesare Orsenigo, to host a gala in honour of Hitler’s 50th birthday. A birthday greeting from the bishops of Germany to the Führer would become an annual tradition until the end of World War II.

In the summer of 1941, following Hitler’s invasion of Yugoslavia, the Catholic, Fascist state of Croatia was formed. The Croat Fascist separatists, Ustashe, under the leadership of Ante Pavelic embarked on a campaign of enforced conversions, deportations, and mass extermination targeting a population of 2.2 million Serb Orthodox Christians and a smaller number of Jews and Gypsies.
Italian writer Carlo Falconi described, for example, that in April a band of Ustashe had rounded up 331 Serbs in Otocac. The victims were forced to dig their own graves before being hacked to death with axes. It is estimated that 487,000 Orthodox Serbs, 27,000 Gypsies and 30,000 Jews (from a total of 45,000) were massacred.

There was a close relationship between the Ustashe regime and the Catholic bishops. Pope Pius XII (Pacelli) knew what was happening but didn’t utter a single word of protest. To add injury to insult, he regularly extended warm wishes to the Ustashe: ... xii-199910
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Some of the important Nazi’s, fascists and their supporters were also Knights of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM).
I’ve been looking in vain for a good overview story on Knights of Malta that supported WW II. I did find some lists of Nazi supporters (most of which have already been named in this thread), and give a little additional information.

Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands - worked for a subsidiary of IG Farben when he married Dutch Crown Princess Juliana.

Prescott Bush - Was involved in financing Hitler through the UBC bank. The money was laundered through the Dutch BHS bank.

General William “Wild Bill” Donovan – Director of the wartime predecessor of the CIA, OSS.

Allen Dulles – Close to Rockefeller (his brother Secretary of State John Foster Dulles was also involved).

General Reinhard Gehlen – The Nazi Chief of intelligence on the Eastern front.
On 17 Nov 1948, was awarded one of the highest honours of the SMOM, the Grand Cross of Merit.

Joseph Kennedy – Supported the German Nazis.

Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini – Dictator of fascist Italy.
See Mussolini with his Grand Cross of Honour and Devotion of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta.

Franz von Papen – Helped Hitler to become Fuhrer. Received the Knight Magistral Grand Cross of SMOM in April 1933: http://moversandshakersofthesmom.blogsp ... ntity.html