There were roughly 100 people inside the bar when the gunman opened fire.
An estimated 50 to 60 survivors of the Las Vegas shooting were at the Borderline Bar on Wednesday.
Ian Long supposedly killed 12, wounding at least 12 more and he was conveniently killed as well. What are the odds of killing 12 and wounding 12, of the 100 inside, with only some 30 bullets?
Ventura County Sheriff's Sergeant Ron Helus, who was first on the scene, was killed after being shot multiple times (!) in the gunshot exchange between the cops and Long.
Ian Long reportedly suffered from Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... oting.html
(archived here: http://archive.is/uztXW)
I haven’t checked the following calculation, but the odds of being caught up in 2 mass shootings, is extremely small.
A group of 50 that were both at the Las Vegas country festival shooting and this one is impossible (under “normal” circumstances): https://blogs.princeton.edu/librarian/2 ... g-my-odds/
Borderline employee Telemachus Orfanos, 27, who had served in the Navy, was reported among those killed.
He had earlier survived the mass shooting that killed 58 at the Route 91 Harvest Festival in Las Vegas last year.
You can see in the following video that his mother Susan Orfanos is really, really heartbroken that her son Telemachus Orfanos survived the Route 91 Harvest Festival shooting, but in this event was killed...
Susan Orfanos told ABC 7:
https://youtu.be/fiDIXa26A4MMy son was in Las Vegas with a lot of his friends and he came home.
He didn't come home last night, and I don't want prayers. I don't want thoughts.
I want gun control, and I hope to God nobody else sends me any more prayers. I want gun control. No more guns.
The following is the only video that I’ve found of the scene inside the Borderline bar.
There are also some witnesses that play really, really emotional...
According to CNN, Thousand Oaks shooter Ian Long made his last post on Facebook shortly before his attack with anti-gun rhetoric:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/08/us/t ... index.htmlI hope people call me insane… (laughing emojis).. wouldn’t that just be a big ball of irony?
Yeah.. I’m insane, but the only thing you people do after these shootings is ‘hopes and prayers’.. or ‘keep you in my thoughts’… every time… and wonder why these keep happening…
Soldier Brandon Kelly, who also survived the Las Vegas shooting, tells about what supposedly happened.
It also shows Kelly without his shirt that he used for first aid on a victim in the aftermath of the shooting. I would expect to see panic and shock?
This guy also talks like a cop/military....
He tells a carefully prepared story.
I had a hard time following the interview with this smiling girl (is she sad?)…
If I understand correctly, she was on the outside patio when shooting started, was thrown under a table and then suddenly was inside and then got thrown out of a window out again?!?